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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 14 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Non-conservarives: I don't want to associate with people who voted for a bigot.

Conservatives: Wow, so much for the tolerant left! I guess we all were not fam in the klerb!

This was basically a Facebook post o saw someone post. Like, how can you, with a straight face, say shit like "I guess we aren't all fam in the klerb" when you voted for the one kicking people out of the damn klerb?

[–] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 3 points 56 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 1 points 28 minutes ago

Redneck for club. Similar to "they're stealing our jerbs!"

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 19 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

It's weird, in my family the black sheep are the ultra conservatives whereas everyone else leans from Liberal (at the most Right Leaning) to "Let's burn down a mansion and eat the first non-servant who runs out alive!"

I was kinda glad that the uncle who was "Always trying to be my friend, always hip and cool and with it despite actually being none of those things and instead coming off as an annoying asshole." basically stopped talking to me or even acknowledging my existence beyond telling his son/my cousin that I was possessed by Demons that made me cut off my dick and that's why they gotta get the Mexicans outta America before they teach Evolution to white children (Barely an exaggeration), and his son/my cousin was smart enough to basically say "My Dad says you're evil, but I'm actually going to be somewhat nice although still an annoying little bible thumping shit, because if you're evil you have all the Satanic Video Games in VR!"

and I said "Well at least you have some level of thinking for yourself, here's my Occulus (I'm not calling it a Meta), go nuts."

Lately only my Aunt has been coming to Thanksgiving Dinners while the uncle and cousin have been staying at home, apparently she's starting to get sick of their Right Wing Christofascist Bullshit.

For the record, she's Anti-LGBT, Pro-Trump, and believes they eat dogs in Ohio, she's just sane by comparison to her husband and son.

Like it's the difference between "Trump's racist, but at least he's not a Democrat" Vs. "Trump is literally the Messiah, We're gonna send the infidels to Christ for Judgement!", Far Right Vs. QAnon Shit

We're very civil about it in the hopes that she and hopefully the son too, can break away from her husband's nonsense.

For the record: My aunt is the one related by blood, not the uncle.

I will say this, I hate Reddit Atheists; the kind that jump on your case for shouting "Oh God!" when you're scared and worship the Sacred Texts of St. Hitchens. But if every religious person I ever met was like my uncle and his son, I'd totally get why Reddit Atheists are the way they are...

Last time the kid came to Thanksgiving, he was talking to my sister about Jurassic Park... Then during dinner when I was just making conversation, (Everyone eats at the same table, we don't have a separate "Kid's Table" sides they were in their late teens anyway) I made the mistake of treating dinosaurs as if they were real and not an elaborate creation of Hollywood.

He kept chanting "The Big Bang is a Faerie Tale, not a theory!" until I "apologized to Jesus for my blasphemy."

They actually had to take him out of public school and put him in a private Fundie school because he kept failing his classes due to trying to claim most of History and Science didn't actually exist on his assignments.

I'm deeply worried; one day that guy (He's an adult now) is going to leave the bubble created for him by his Church and his father, and he will not be even slightly equipped to begin to comprehended the world outside.

[–] Sine_Fine_Belli@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

Tell me about it, I don’t like my mom’s transphobia. I also don’t like the fact that she likes trump. At least she’s not a Christian Nationalist yet.

My dad is pretty chill at least and I try to be on good terms with him.

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

What makes you think he'll leave? I know plenty of adults 40+ that are still like the...

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 5 points 6 hours ago

Mom and Dad have to die some time.....

It may happen when he's old and grey, rolling outside on his futurstic hover wheelchair wondering why people say it's the hover-servos that make his chair fly and not Jesus.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 97 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

Replace the second panel red with “woke and gay”

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 12 points 7 hours ago

Hey buddy! I may be woke. And I may be gay! And... What was the third thing you called me?

[–] superkret@feddit.org 39 points 11 hours ago (2 children)
[–] dan@upvote.au 8 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I still haven't looked into what "woke" actually means, but from what I can tell, it seems to mean anything far-right people don't like.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

In left-leaning spaces it means "cognizant of the injustice pervading society". On the right it means "uppity".

[–] nixcamic@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

cognizant of the injustice pervading society

I mean that's what it means to people on the right also they just think that's a bad thing.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Yeah, seems like "woke" is anything we're not supposed to approve of this month.

I do find the word "woke" incredibly useful.

The moment the word exits someone's mouth, I save a ton of energy on how to handle any further information they share (highly suspect).

Edit: I've actually discovered some great art and culture by being warned away from it's "wokeness", too.

[–] josefo@leminal.space 34 points 11 hours ago (10 children)

that's why the word was invented, to replace the obvious intolerance for openness

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[–] bradd@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Also there is no way the second dude isn't going. He's going and hes going to bs and eat and drink beer and belch, no matter who else is going to be there.

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[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 230 points 14 hours ago (9 children)

They don't think we're open minded and understanding.

They think we're ignorant of how the world works, condescending, and irrationally judgemental.

I'm not saying this is how we ARE, this is just how they view us, and because they view us like that from the very start, there is no opportunity for meaningful dialogue.

It is bi-directional prejudice, and only by acts of understanding and patience and wisdom can that be overcome.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 5 points 5 hours ago

They think we're ignorant of how the world works, condescending, and irrationally judgemental.

Lol. Yep Though in fairness, I am genuinely judging them so fucking hard.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 110 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Agreed, for the most part. I'm never going to be impartial and seek understanding with a racist Nazi. They will have to understand my fist.

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[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 52 points 14 hours ago (6 children)

Pretty true, obviously most racist biggots don't see themselves as racist biggots. They don't see us as "open minded" they see us as close minded to their views.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 58 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Depends on the person. I've been told to my face without a hint of irony that "you're so open minded all your brains fell out".

[–] Zink@programming.dev 5 points 8 hours ago

Being convinced to give a shit about other people just shows that you’re gullible, to them.

[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 14 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I spent most of my childhood being repeatedly informed by my incredibly Republican family that I lack common sense.

Yet, I have the common sense to know that if you let people do whatever the fuck they want to do with their own bodies and lives then they'll stay the fuck out of your body and your life.

Perhaps that is an uncommon sense. However, it should be a common sense but the people who claim to have common sense fail to understand that consistently.

Maybe common sense is not all it's cracked up to be.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

Common sense is a thought terminator. It’s just “everyone who’s smart agrees with this”. It’s common sense you shouldn’t inject any aspect of a disease causing pathogen into people. It’s common sense that you can’t burn so much stuff you make the whole sky smoky or permanently warm the planet. It’s common sense that you don’t share an ancestor with an oak tree. Now none of that is true. You should get vaccines, uncontrolled combustion creates smog and contributes to global warming, and all eukaryotic organisms share a common ancestor. But if you phrase things right and say it’s obvious people will agree with your false statements and think people are over educated idiots for being right.

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[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 66 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

‘>Be me

‘>Liberal uncle in conservative/ trump family

‘>Fly to red state for family member’s funeral

‘>Get made fun of by all family members in public at the funeral reception

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 44 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

My grandma never met you. She lived to be 103, and died last October (2023).

My grandma loved you. She wanted you to do well, and be happy. Just as she did with everyone on earth. It's physically impossible for her to host a dinner big enough to feed everyone on earth. But the logistical impossibility is the only reason she didn't do it.

My cousin is a lesbian. She had been married to a decent man, had two kids. Good family man. Married for nearly 10 years before she discovered she was lesbian. The breakup was civil. He did nothing wrong. They both still loved each other, and loved the kids. He was still welcome at the table, as was my cousins new partner. My cousins mom was NOT accepting. When my aunt tried making a scene, my grandma said "Melinda.......I won't have hate at this table. You love your daughter. I don't ask you to agree with your daughters lifestyle. But I do ask you do not bring hate into my home."

My grandma was a teacher in her 20s. She lived in a small but growing suburb, and essentially raised the whole town. She got promoted several times as the years went on. Eventually being the district superintendant. She LITERALLY was responsible for raising thousands of kids, who were everywhere from the boomer generation to the millenials.

She had a simple philosophy. Which was that she loved you. She would put aside the world to hear what you had to say. My grandpa used to joke that when WWII broke out, she was having tea with the neighbors and helping raise their kids. Just discussing the day. Choas and war breaking out across the globe, but she was determined to hear about you. And for the kids, she would teach them that everybody was different, and we need to love everybody for who they are. Not who you want them to be.

And she loved everyone. Even you. Even though she never met you. She always said "Everyone is welcome in this home, as long as they take off their hat at the dinner table, leave hate out of their hearts, and tell me about their day."

The only time I ever remember her saying anything negative, was somebody had said during trumps first term something he was doing in office.

Her reply was "I just do not like that man."

AIRHORNS!!!

I know that sounds so non-aggressive, but for her to say she didn't like someone would be like a world leader declairing WWIII. The room literally went quiet.

So I try to live my life to keep making Gram proud. Accept everyone, even if you disagree with them. You can't just accept those you get along with, and not create an echo chamber.

So if you're ever in Cleveland, you can have a meal with me. And maybe when you fly out of state to be with family, you can teach them about letting the hate go.

[–] Canadian_anarchist@lemmy.ca 11 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Your grandma sounds like a wonderful human who lived a wonderful life. I hope you are doing well.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

She's my hero in life.

My dad is a loud stubborn alcoholic. Someone who just forces his way into being "right". Two of my three aunts would just bicker and fight. The third aunt would usually be reading a book, or watching a documentary. She had 3 masters degrees.

From those 4 children my grandma had came 4 different families. With that, meant that back in the 90s, when everybody was still alive, but before the great grandkids came, meant that there could be roughly 40 people in this small condo, which was essentially just one medium sized open plan living room, and a seperate kitchen.

So you'd have my dad barking orders at someone, my aunts fighting amongst themselves. Uncles loudly argueing sports. Grandkids all running around, doing cartwheels, jumping off the couch. Basically a lot of noise and chaos in a very small space.

And then my grandma would very quietly say "Excuse me".

Whole room stops. Dead silent. Room full of respect. And with a hushed voiced, barely louder than a whipsper she would ask "would someone check on the potatoes? I wouldn't like them to burn."

14 people, her kids, grandkids, the uncles, all rush the kitchen, and checking potatoes. Like it only takes one person to do that. I get that. But the uncles are the only people she didn't have a major part of raising, and even they respect her. Most of them met her when they were older teenagers. So she very much had the whole neighborhood mom thing going on in the 50s/60s.

But just imagine how that works. Room full of chaos comes to a dead silent stop because a woman in her 80s wants to make sure everyone gets a baked potato, and mashed potatoes, and sweet potatoes.

Doesn't matter what she wanted. If gram wanted something, the world stops for her. And I was 40 years old last year when she died. I never once heard her yell. Yet the idea of her needing to is completely foreign to me. Because EVERYONE wanted to make sure her every need was met. Not through fear, but from a place of love and respect. She had taught us life lessions since most of us were born.

That's why I don't use past tense. It's not that she "was" my hero. She IS my hero. Now and forever.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 24 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Ugh, everyone has that non-racist uncle nobody likes to see at family gatherings!

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 23 points 10 hours ago

He always stays sober and doesn't join in the violent and racist tirade

[–] bilb@lem.monster 17 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

In my family, the more conservative guys are the clean shaven ones. Weird.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 7 hours ago

Also, GenZ men voted for fascism more than millennial men so this comic really is backwards

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 58 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Don’t you just hate it when people are compassionate and nonviolent? Hand me my gun

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