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Commentators and Bourgeois economists always seem to be 5 years behind and utterly confused (lemmygrad.ml)
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[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

"restart the economy"

If 6.1% real growth in household expenditure is bad enough to need a "restarting of the economy" and "rebalancing" then where the fuck does that put the west? Like it's one thing to put a neoliberal spin on things, it's another to simply talk about phantasms. I know that neolib standards were low, but not this low.

The only stats this mf quotes in the entire video are of a single data point from a single province.

Also, I shouldn't have to explain this, but obviously economic growth is driven by technological innovations (and increasing the people's access to existing innovations). Guy accuses tech investments for being unsustainable. His solution to increasing Chinese GDP "sustainably"? "Rebalance the economy". Surely that's something that can be done over and over again, right? We know because the great overlords of our great society come out with new "business model innovations" on a monthly basis.

I find it somewhat humorous as well how the whole economic and geopolitical strategy of the CPC is boiled down to "Xi said". Lol ok.

Edit: He mentions the cost of the bridge. He does get it wrong by 3 orders of magnitude, making it seem as if the bridge cost 140 billion dollars (which would make it almost 66% of china's military budget lmao.

[–] ViVerVo@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Hell, I'd also argue these guys are disconnected from reality. TL:DR blasts China for building bridges in Guizhou and says that the people there are "too poor" to justify such an investment. However, he does not make the connection that Guizhou's poverty is connected to its isolation due to the various mountains. Even if you were to "stimulate consumption" in Guizhou, how would those goods and services make their way into or out of Guizhou en masse? Will they magically teleport past all the treacherous terrain? How will people easily get in and out of the province for work? health? or education?

Not only that, he blatantly lies in the video, claiming that the Duge bridge cost 1 Trillion Yuan to build, but I can't find any source that says that. Most sources say that the bridge costs 1 Billion Yuan, not 1 Trillion Yuan.

tldr: TLDR "news" (and others like him) are disconnected from reality, lack basic empathy (le people are too poor to justify the bridges), and are full bags of shit.

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago

Even if you were to “stimulate consumption” in Guizhou, how would those goods and services make their way into or out of Guizhou en masse?

Money. Don't you know, numbers on a computer screen and pieces of paper have supernatural creative ability as long as we all collectively decide to believe in their power.

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Most sources say that the bridge costs 1 Billion Yuan, not 1 Trillion Yuan.

I think this is a giveaway that the dude behind the channel is not fromt he US but from a non-english speaking country.

For example in german we have slightly different terms for those numerical categories.

In english it's million(7 digits) -> billion(10 digits) -> trillion(13 digits) and so on.

In german it's millionen(7 digits)->milliarden(10 digits)->billionen(13 digits)->billiarden(16 digits)-> trillionen(17 digits)-> trilliarden(20 digits) and so on.

Because of the phonetical similarities, mixups can easily happen in translation. Dude is not only stupid, he also loves doxing himself.

[–] ViVerVo@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

Interesting. I would also point out that he claimed that the Duge bridge cost 1 trillion months ago from his older videos on China. So all this time, none of his audience pointed out that error 🤦

[–] sinovictorchan@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 weeks ago

The indoctrination trick here is to claim that the will of the people is the will of one person and that the will of some racist Western European diaspora is the will of the colonized people of color to maintain slogan democracy of Pax Americana.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

These tldr dudes are the main reason I stopped paying for nebula despite liking a good chunk of creators there. Not the only, but they're like breadtube in terms of libness but without even insightful analysis of media or engaging presentation to make up for it. Just Gordon Chang shit from criminally uninformed white dudes all the time.

[–] kredditacc@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 weeks ago

The propaganda of the Empire target people from all sorts of backgrounds with different levels of sophistication. The least sophiscated narrative targets the least learned. The narrative is just simply "commies bad". The more knowledgeable will have a more sophisticated narrative to target them.

[–] commiewolf@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago

Nebula is also very staunchly anti-Palestine, just a total lib haven at this point.

[–] davel@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Not only are their heads stuffed with bourgeois/liberal/imperialist/chauvinist/orientalist ideologies, they’re also stuffed with neoliberalism/neoclassical economics ideology. They’re steeped in Junk Economics, making them worse than ignorant. They would have to unlearn things just to reach a baseline ignorance.

Your brain on imperial core, always the same map chauvinism:

Sure, [China] could instead export [BYD cars] to consumers abroad, but more and more countries are becoming wary of their dependence on Chinese exports.

But also, it’s a YouTube channel named TL;DR, so why wouldn’t it be garbage?

[–] juchenecromancer@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago

Is the quote from The Governance of China? Incredible based.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I always wonder if these demagogues believe what they say.

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago

I think they find the truth irrelevant. Their goal is to destroy people's opinion of China, and they feel that anything they can say to do that is justifiable.

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago

In the case of the tldr guys, they probably do believe in what they say. They simply don't spend nearly enough time researching topics from a broad enough perspective, and often lack the expertise needed to make insightful judgments.

It's not much better than having a crew of amateurs goggling things on Wikipedia. They just have a high production quality.

[–] TankieReplyBot@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

I found a YouTube link in your post. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy: