this post was submitted on 10 Jul 2023
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Fediverse

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A community to talk about the Fediverse and all it's related services using ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, KBin, etc).

If you wanted to get help with moderating your own community then head over to !moderators@lemmy.world!

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Learn more at these websites: Join The Fediverse Wiki, Fediverse.info, Wikipedia Page, The Federation Info (Stats), FediDB (Stats), Sub Rehab (Reddit Migration)

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Current breakdown at the time of this post sorted by the number of monthly active users:

  1. lemmy.world: 101,013 total users / 27,472 active users
  2. lemmy.ml: 41,972 total users / 4,905 active users
  3. beehaw.org: 12,270 total users / 4,178 active users
  4. sh.itjust.works: 17,509 total users / 3,381 active users
  5. feddit.de: 8,675 total users / 2,935 active users
  6. lemm.ee: 10,348 total users / 2,751 active users
  7. lemmynsfw.com: 22,967 total users / 2,310 active users
  8. lemmy.fmhy.ml: 8,777 total users / 1,704 active users
  9. lemmy.ca: 5,072 total users / 1,656 active users
  10. programming.dev: 5,058 total users / 1,242 active users

Source: https://the-federation.info/platform/73

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[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think that Lemmy does need more of the right exposure.

If you search for any Lemmy content on Google or Duck-Duck-Go, you don’t get any good results. This is probably because most people use Apps or secure browsers that don’t allow tracking.

Maybe Duck-Duck-Go need to have a !bang search modifier for Lemmy. https://duckduckgo.com/bangs

[–] nemesis_aorta@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Maybe Duck-Duck-Go need to have a !bang search modifier for Lemmy. https://duckduckgo.com/bangs

Most likely not feasible, because what the bangs do is passing site:domain.com to the search result. As you know, Lemmy does not have a singular domain name so this won't work for it. As a matter of fact, there is a bang for Mastodon, but it only searches the biggest instance, mastodon.social.

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.one 27 points 2 years ago (17 children)

That's pretty cool.

I'm truly not being a negative nancy but the last time I checked reddit had 400M user accounts. We should be comparing active user numbers, but either way, this is a drop in the bucket and reddit rightly does not consider Lemmy a threat to its supremacy at this point.

We're doing great though! Good trajectory.

[–] TheSpookiestUser@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (10 children)

I don't need Lemmy to compete with or kill Reddit. All I wanted was any one platform to get enough of an influx of users to be self-sustaining even after the outrage started to die down, which appears to have been successful.

[–] relative_iterator@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah as long as we have an active enough community here it doesn’t matter what goes on at reddit.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It kinda does in that when things worsen, more people come to Lemmy, but I agree that Lemmy's success doesn't depend on reddit's demise.

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[–] Lemmylefty@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Exactly. I don’t want or need to build another McDonalds or Starbucks; I just want to go to the Mom and Pop down the road without worrying if they’ll tank.

[–] knova@links.dartboard.social 4 points 2 years ago

Great analogy

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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Exactly. Well said. We have all the time in the world to grow. What we needed was a good start, and we got it. Just keep creating content, volunteer to mod somewhere, and don’t look back.

[–] deranger@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I agree. Just give me some decent posts and discussion. For niche things I can go to a big platform with all the users. For my daily browsing, I appreciate a small but active community.

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[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (4 children)

It’s a hard habit to break, because we’ve been trained to think this way for years, but try to remember: we don’t need to attract millions of users to be valuable. This isn’t a commercial enterprise. We don’t sell advertising. We don’t measure success by the number of eyeballs we can promise paying customers.

What matters now is the quality of conversation. In fact, that’s the ONLY measure of any consequence. It’s strange, because in the past, someone’s often tried to use services like this as a way to make money, or as a way to make something else they were selling more attractive. We expected it. It was always in the back of our heads. It even got to the point that if a company did something that wasn’t an effort to increase profitability, we criticized them. Generosity, real generosity, was alien to us.

It’s hard to wrap your head around the idea that people volunteer their time and money to build and maintain the fediverse, simply because they want us to be able to communicate. That’s it. There’s no hidden agenda. There’s no quest for profit at our expense.

I’m perfectly fine with the fediverse growing slowly. I don’t want it to be strained beyond what the mods can handle. Bigger isn’t necessarily better.

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[–] ReallyKinda@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Personally I don’t care if I’m talking to millions of people vs hundreds of thousands as long as there are enough people to make it feel alive and like a community.

[–] Xeelee@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Exactly. I don't give a fuck about Reddit any more. I'd rather be in a niche community with (some) quality content than on some huge site with mainly reposts. We're not in competition with Reddit. Were trying to be a better alternative.

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[–] RatzChatsubo@lemm.ee 25 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I think I can confidently say now that this is a legit Reddit alternative

[–] MoonshineDegreaser@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I'm happy to see someone say that. Just made my account a minute ago

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I confidently deleted my 33k karma, 12 year old reddit account yesterday. I agree.

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[–] starman@programming.dev 14 points 2 years ago

Hello fellow programming.dev lemmings!

[–] Jay@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Sorry dude, you'll have to subtract one unfortunately. I created a NSFW account to have two different home feeds.

Apologies for the inconvenience.

[–] Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Ummm. I have a friend that has a 2nd NSFW account too.

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[–] hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Doing course correction in fixing social media is a long game. It'll take a while, and there'll be turbulence, but this is a great start

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And to think you thought you needed a John Oliver AMA. John Oliver don't have anything on me.

"Barbie", only in theaters July 21st.

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[–] SJ_Zero@lemmy.fbxl.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A quarter million users and that's not even with all the different instances.

Very cool. Just remember folks, don't forget to diversify and decentralize! These other instances have some interesting posts and conversations, and by spreading out we make sure no single instance or community can break the fediverse.

[–] FinalBoy1975@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

A lot of them also restrict content. There are disadvantages to joining smaller instances, depending on the philosophy of the person who runs the instance. There's even an instance that does not allow communities to be created on its own instance. It will accept applications from people who wish to create one, but they mostly reject applications on their own whim. I think the future of Lemmy as a Reddit alternative will rely on larger, freer instances to be supported well so they have room for growth and change. I have my personal preferences. I don't want content from exploding-heads, but I also want to see the content I want to see. Some smaller instances are restricting that content, almost seeming to be like cults in the making. There are small instances from which it is impossible to find and subscribe to communities from lemmy.world. You have to search for them on a larger instance, then copy and paste in the address bar in your browser. I imagine on a dedicated phone app that would not be possible. So, you can advocate for "spreading out" all you want. In the end, if the goal is to have a strong alternative to Reddit, spreading out is kind of pointless for a lot of users.

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[–] ColonelSanders@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Not to be the fly in the ointment, but you can't really just add those up and expect that number to be accurate if we're trying to look at unique users within the fediverse. If I had to hazard a guess, a not-so-insignificant chunk of those probably overlap (i.e. users who have made multiple accounts across several instances). I have made an account across lemmy.world, lemmy.ml, kbin and fedia just as backups in case one instance fails. I might be an extreme case having 4, but pretty sure it's becoming increasingly common for people to have at least 2 accounts (1 on a different instance).

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[–] SageWaterDragon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I have high hopes for Lemmy, but I don't think that having a lot of users is going to be a super positive thing in the long term. It'd be great if it could feel like younger Reddit for longer than younger Reddit did, you know? Stay at least a little under the radar.

[–] theragu40@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Reddit was and is impossibly easy to use. You visit the site and start scrolling. If and when you decide you want to participate you create and account and start doing so.

The barrier to entry on Lemmy is much higher. This will keep out many of the types of low effort users that would eventually turn this into reddit.

Maybe someday the fediverse will be as obvious to everyone as any other part of the internet but it's definitely not right now and it will be awhile before it is.

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[–] FxtrtTngoWhisky@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (5 children)

In looking for a replacement for Reddit, I came across this. I'm hopefully optimistic. The last straw for me in a long list of issues that I have with Reddit came yesterday. Lemmy has a long way to go, but I'm moving away from Reddit and will become active here.

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great. slowly transitioning into Lemmy from now on becuz fuck reddit

[–] Bdi89@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I'm one of those! Literally just joined for my first comment. :)

[–] thedaly@reseed.it 4 points 2 years ago (17 children)

Of the top five, sh.itjust.works seems to be the best. Definitely the instance that I would recommend to new users.

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[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 4 points 2 years ago (12 children)

Lemmy.nz here

I think it is cool that it is coming up on nearly 2 million across all ~1200 instances.

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[–] ChexMax@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)
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[–] Epicurus0319@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (5 children)

We should spread out across it, if the lemmy.world hack and the fact that its admins are even flirting with the idea of fedding with threads are any indication

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[–] joolez@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

90% 2nd accounts on lemmynsfw.

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