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[–] sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org 128 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

The laws of robotics:

  1. A robot shall never harm a human, or through inaction allow a human to come to harm.
  2. Fuck other robots though. Fuck them right up.
[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago (3 children)
[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

First glance I thought that was One Must Fall: 2097, but turns out below it doesn't even get close to that epic level.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

To be fair, given its legacy now as one of the worst one-on-one fighting games in the history of the universe, Rise of the Robots probably wishes it was One Must Fall.

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[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 92 points 5 days ago (5 children)

As it turns out, the impact wasn't too severe. The Waymo cab, to its credit, hit the brakes immediately and avoided knocking the poor little thing over. And moments later, while the robotaxi is still in a daze, the Serve robot drives away like nothing happened.

Smash seems to be overselling it.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 35 points 5 days ago (3 children)

They had hot, angry robot sex afterward

[–] RCTreeFiddy@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago

It appears the video may have been sped up in the part just before the impact. I would like to see the unedited clip, I bet it was way less severe than it looked.

[–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like a good time to use the word "bump"

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Maybe even "boop".

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 days ago

The word "slam" has been reserved for headlines of someone giving minor criticism, can't use that unfortunately.

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[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 40 points 4 days ago (5 children)

There should be an open communication standard that all robots use to communicate with each other.

And it will only be used for good and nothing nefarious.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How about if we had sixteen different proprietary such protocols instead?

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We’d need a seventeenth unifying protocol

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

There should be an open communication standard that all robots use to communicate with each other.

Yes!

And it will only be used for good and nothing nefarious.

Oh no

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[–] Valorie12@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago

Begun, the robot wars have.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago
[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 38 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Little robot crossed against the signal, and couldn't navigate the curb, big robot cali rolled the right turn and didn't yield to the pedestrian walk way. What a shit show. Glad it wasn't someone in a wheel chair.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 37 points 5 days ago (6 children)

So what we're saying is, this is it, folks. We've finally reached robot parity with exactly how humans would behave in the same situation.

Not quite.

We'd need the waymo cab to start screaming about how the robot just jumped right out in front of it, and how they should stay the hell out of the way.

Then we'll have reached parity.

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[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 25 points 5 days ago (5 children)

video of it on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hazFkED40KI if you don't want to go to reddit through the linked page

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[–] obinice@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

You call that a smash? Stop sensationalising, come now.

A car gently tapped a thing during a turn and came to a stop.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I see nobody talking about this, but aren't the Waymo(s) trained on data which most likely did not include these robots yet?

It seems like this is just something that'll probably happen a lot whenever something new is introduced on the roads.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Expect reCaptcha to ask you to identify food delivery robots soon.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Wouldn't be surprised tbh.

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't know about the equipment of Waymo cars, but I would be surprised if they didn't have LIDARs or some other form of distance based environment detection.

And that should be sufficient to implement basic obstacle detection. You don't need to use machine learning if you can use sensors telling you that "something is too close".

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

The article title is misleading as usual.

The car collided after hitting the brakes, seems there wasn't any real damage. It seems the system is designed to only lessen the impact when it detects the obstacle as non-human. If it would have recognized the robot as human, it would have probably acted differently.

Better to hit the object and lessen the impact than to fully brake/avoid and risk worse.

[–] BritishJ@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Well, they should try to avoid any object in the road to be honest. Imagine a new toy comes out that a child is on. Sorry we killed that child l, we didn't train it on that new toy.

Its just an unacceptable answer to be honest.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

That is also very true.

It's not a Tesla so I'm sure they are investigating the cause.

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[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

but aren't the Waymo(s) trained on data which most likely did not include these robots yet?

You can say that about nearly 100% of humans as well.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

So I'm finding it hard to find a release date for humans, but I'm fairly sure they predated the invention of self-driving cars.

For example I seem to remember being alive in the 1990s

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

Where were you during the robot wars of 2025?

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 18 points 5 days ago

The future is now!

[–] Lemminnewbie2@lemm.ee 15 points 5 days ago

I hate seeing this kind of bot on bot crime

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 15 points 5 days ago

We'll win the robot wars by pitting them against each other.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 4 days ago

This new season of Robot Wars / Battle Bots is starting strong

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 7 points 5 days ago

The shadow wars

[–] hmancuso@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Every robot should have some kind of electronic blinker to let others know they're robots. That way, we can avoid a bunch of bumps and crashes.

[–] the_ocs@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] hmancuso@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

We could always consider reaching out to Harrison Ford for a classic bot chase.

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