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Fact is, the Lemmy ecosystem needs money to handle the growing server reqirements as more people migrate as well as the development cost of new features (I know Lemmy is OSS but the devs should still get some compensation for their effort).

Seeing how much some reddit users love awards so much that they cant stop giving money to Reddit to award posts protesting the api change, this could be a great way for users to voluntary support the ecosystem. It can be easily ignored by users not caring about them (clients could even add an option to hide them), but users liking the feature can go wild and this time the money goes to volunteers keeping this alive instead of greedy admins, power mods and investors.

Though there would be some big organization questions attached: attached:

  • Which server handles the payment? A centralized one, the one where the post was made or the one where the user giving the award account was created.
  • How will the money be shared between the Devs and the individual instances in a way that is fair but cant be abused easily.
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[–] murphys_lawyer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Could we like, not immediately talk about monetisation 1 month after leaving reddit? If you want to support your instance host, you can ask for a way to donate.

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[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's a distraction from the actual interactions. Same way karma is.

I'm all for supporting instances and open source developers, but any kind of reward for a donation creates wrong incentives. Donation is called a donation because it's a gift without expecting something in return.

[–] ulu_mulu@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I fully agree with you, karma "whoring" is a serious problem on reddit, awards could lead to the same behavior here if implemented.

Donations are the best way to support the platform, if you want to be "visible" as donator, opencollective allows you to post a message about it, there's also a sort of top donators page, that's more than enough in my opinion.

[–] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I think making likes and dislikes public is bad enough. You can probably guess how that applies to "gold".

[–] NENathaniel@lemmy.film 3 points 1 year ago

I’d like the idea if they either can’t be purchased, or the purchase goes toward your Instance’s hosting fees

[–] samokosik@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have never used it on reddit. I have always found them useless

[–] IDatedSuccubi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I used them a couple of times, I like them; I use them when the post I REALLY like doesn't have much upvotes. Like when I see post with 24 upvotes that deserves 400+ I give it gold, so the user will still feel happy.

Disclaimer though, I received all my points from winning a big sub contest, I didn't ever pay for them.

[–] fujiwara@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

I've never wanted anything less in my life.

[–] justhach@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can we leave the karma system and awards with Reddit? Allowing voting in comment sections for pseudo-moderation by the users is good, but when it turns into a scoring system the conversation devolves into a competition to see who can craft the most palatable opinion to get the most imaginary internet points.

Despite all my thoughtful and helpful comments I made in my 11 years on reddit, you know what my top comment was?

  • Comes in
  • Kills the Queen
  • Tanks the economy
  • Leaves

What a legacy.

47k updoots, and 27 awards.

[–] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This right here.

I used to (a very, very, very long time ago) contribute on StackOverflow. How much? I haven't even logged in for over 7 years (and didn't contribute a good two years before that) and my account is still in the top 0.71% overall.

Let me tell you how I racked up that score.

I monitored the site in off-hours (easy to do with my time zone). I found new questions for the most popular programming language on the site (back then this being Java). I then did what the asker should have done: I Googled. I then wrote an answer (a correct answer: this is important) and got first-responder points.

And here's the funny thing: I don't program in Java. I hate the language. I know enough Java programming to be dangerous. VERY dangerous. But 18% of my points came from answering Java questions. A further 15% came from answering C++ questions which is at least a language I know ... but also despise and won't work with any longer.

This is how easy it is to game fantasy Internet points: whether "karma" or "gold" or whatever you like. And if you start providing these fantasy Internet points you're going to start attracting people for whom high numbers of them are important and they will do what I did to the detriment of the ecosystem. (I mean at least in my case my answers were right. Disingenuous that I of all people answered them, but at least correct. This is not the case for all points whores.)

[–] Alula@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I don’t believe that awards should exist on comments or posts, but i do want the devs to gain some money off of this.

The best choice would probably be for them to set up ways to donate to them in my opinion .

[–] jacktherippah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't want to see award speeches here on Lemmy. For example: OMG! THANK YOU FOR THE GOLD KIND STRANGER!!!!1111

[–] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I agree.

EDIT: WOW 1 LIKE??? THANK YOU STRANGER I'VE NEVER GOTTEN THIS MANY LIKES BEFORE!1!!1

[–] andisent@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I never cared for them on Reddit and used third party tools to remove or hide them.

I don't like that they can be used to shop visibility.

I would like that it gives an opportunity to fund instances but I would hope we could discover another way to do this.

[–] nxfsi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't want the comments section to look like the inner cabinet of the North Korean army

[–] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I like this comment. Let me award you the flaming golden sun of glory medal of the people.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't love the awards from Reddit, but I would like to see something like this (unpopular opinion, I know). Instances need funding.

I don't care about what the awards are themselves, I care about the way the funding works. I would love to see the funds split in a two tiered system.

Here is a general example of my idea. When a award is purchased it gets split into two pots. One pot is a general pot that gets disbursed to those running the instances based on whatever metrics and intervals agreed upon. The other part gets assigned to the reward itself. So in this example let's say an award costs one dollar. 90 cents would go to the pool to be split, the other 10 cents would be tied to the award. So if you award a post on an instance it goes specifically to that instance itself. Instances could even set a percent split with community moderators of the 10 cents. That way you could fund moderators (if that ever becomes needed)

You could even split part of the award reward with the commentor assigned to it... but that puts a weird feeling in my gut and I feel like it is a bad idea to monetize the content itself.

There is a lot you could do with this and a lot more would need to be fleshed out, so I am just thinking out loud.

[–] sma3in@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

please no!! reddit looked like las vegas with that award system. terrible idea!

[–] mister_monster@monero.town 1 points 1 year ago

Eew please god no.

[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No awards please

[–] skogens_ro@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

this

Edit: thank you for the gold, kind dear gentlesir or gentlemadame.

Edit2: wow I never expected to wake up to so many awards, who'd knew my most updooted comment would be about this?

[–] Nima@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Please no rewards. This is not reddit. I think a donation system would be much better way to go about it.

Let the content and conversations just happen. It's more organic that way.

[–] Tigerfishy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm really not looking for a Reddit replica. And um, being rewarded for a good comment isn't really something I need. Or anyone needs. I think getting a cookie for a good comment can be left behind

Edit to add - I should have read the rest of the post more carefully, but I stand by my initial sentiment. Money needs to be funneled into those working hard on this, but I don't know, I don't want more and more Reddit features coming out

[–] flashmedallion@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just donate if you want to support your server.

Awards are special actions reserved for people who pay, that don't improve the platform anyway. It's enshittification.

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[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You've been awarded lemmy gold!

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] Elbrond@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

Why don't server admins open OpenCollective accounts or something similar. It seems to work on Mastodon. I would be willing to pitch in to help finance the instance I'm on.

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