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Ukraine ‘heading for partial ceasefire talks’ before Kursk offensive

In a major shift earlier in August, both sides had agreed to send delegations to the Qatari capital Doha for indirect talks to halt attacks on energy infrastructure, The Washington Post reported. However, the Russian side postponed the meeting after Ukraine’s troops stormed into its territory on Aug 6. Moscow’s delegation described it as an “escalation”, an unnamed diplomat said.

Russia is yet to call off the negotiation entirely and Ukraine’s presidential office said that the Doha summit would still take place on Aug 22 via video link. However, a spokesman for Russia’s foreign ministry denied the claims on Sunday afternoon, stating that the talks could not be disrupted as they were not set to take place in the first place.

It starts making sense. Maybe someone on the NATO/Ukraine side got worried that ceasefire talks might actually lead to ceasefire.

I'm aware and I support the people in the developing nations that go against these types of plans.

But the fact remains that EVs are the future. Whether with lithium batteries or not, whether we should focus more on smaller vehicles (E Scooters etc.) and E Buses for local transit, some type of EV technology is gonna be required. It's still a relatively new technology. There are a lot of things that need optimization.

The "Gardeners" are trying to do what they always done for the last 300+ years. Build a fortune on the back of poorer nations. That doesn't mean the technology itself is to blame.

I said they will try, I didn't say they will succeed. I explicitly said they will almost certainty fail. People in here I believe sometimes go overboard with the "US doesn't have industrial/technological capacity etc.".

Yes they are a shadow of the US of the 30s, 40s and 50s but they still probably have the most advance R&D sector. They might get lucky with something.

The most probable outcome is that they will try and they will fail and they will end up trying to "kill the neighbor's mule" meaning more sanctions to Chinese technology and like you said adopting a more expensive version of it.

I don't necessarily disagree with most of what you wrote but I do believe West^TM^ elites genuinely thought they could monopolize the green industry. They could stifle the development of the South and make a killing selling them their tech at the same time just like I said. There is no reason to give up a potential energy monopoly if you know you are capable of being the leader in it. But now they are realizing they can't. Germany 10 years ago was the leader in solar, now their solar industry is pathetic.

The point I was trying to make with my post was not that Burgerland is gonna attack China's EV and Solar industry. It goes without saying that they would do that (and are already doing it). The point is that they are starting attacking the technologies themselves. They are shifting the narrative. And I explain the directions this could take.

PS: Burgerland doesn't have/want industry since Warsaw Pact ended is an exaggeration. They have and they want industry where they feel they have a comparable advantage and they could do without human labour. Human labour means they have to do the fordist thing again, you know building infrastructure, educate worker, keep them healthy...that ain't happening.

Cornel West is the same. You sometimes hear him talk and you think "what a wonderful human being" and then he says something that makes you want to poke your eyes out...

I'll stick to Lenin for inspiration, thank you very much.

Site needs an emoji/gif of DBZ scouter detecting nazi levels and then blows up.

I have started noticing, in the last year or so, a reversal in West^TM^ in regard to green energy rhetoric (EV and solar in particular) and is becoming worse and worse as time goes by.

This is not the usual global warming denial. In fact you rarely see outright denialist any more (what are they gonna argue about any more anyway, since it is plainly obvious what is happening in the world...).

What you do see from MSM, to YT channels, to everything, is an effort to downplay or even dismiss the potential positive impact EV and solar technology could have and already has in regard to global warming and our way of life in general.

It's quite obvious that this is a result of what is happening in China.

I believe Burgeristan and their puppets thought (10+ years ago) that they would become world leaders in EV, solar and other green technologies.

They thought they could monopolize the industry and sell it to the rest of the world as the only possible solution.

If you didn't subscribe to their, ridiculously overpriced, Greenflix service you would be deemed a barbarian third world nation that leads humanity to catastrophy (which of course we, the West, had nothing to do with...) and you would have many sanctions imposed on you.

So for a time almost everyone went along with green technology in West^TM^*.

Green roofs, green roads, green new deals, you name it.=

There was only one problem.

Burgeristan is run by complete idiots.

They thought that we are in the 30s and 40s where US still had semi-competent captains of industry that could compete with the rest of the world or that they had a political elite that was actually capable of multi-year planning and wasn't completely subservient to the economic elite.

Instead what they got was the Cybertruck and Solar Freaking Roadways.

So what now?

I believe the rhetoric against EVs and Solar is gonna get much worse for starters. The "China is spying on you don't buy from them" is not gonna fly for long.

What we are gonna see more and more is a focus on the technologies themselves. "These technologies are not viable/profitable" is what you are gonna hear.

The next step will probably be Burgerland developing their own version of "green technology". Maybe focus on hydrogen, "clean coal", maybe something else who knows**. They will probably give it some asinine name like "Green Freedom" or something...

Then they will try to create a new Edison vs. Tesla, Direct vs Alternative Current situation and will use their military/economic influence to force countries to adopt their inferior technology.

They will fail of course because again they are run by complete idiots (and I'm not even taking politicians into account, they have no say in this anyway...) but what else are they gonna do at this point. They can no longer compete with China. This is their only play.

So when that finally fails (because you know at the end of the day even puppet nation have a survival instinct) all that they will have left will be an empty anti-China rhetoric.

Their barbarian germanic protestant syphilitic brains could not imagine a "non-white" nation surpassing them. But here we are. So instead of taking all the ill gained surplus value they extracted from the rest of the world for 300 years and actually invest it in something sustainable, they just want to go and kill their neighbor's mule.

Judging by what is happening in the last year or so, I would say we might see a complete reversal in 2-4 years with people that previously where telling you to vote insert status-quo party otherwise "X guy comes and it's the end of the world (due to global warming)" now they will call you a China puppet for wanting the most affordable green high-tech in the world made by China.

Sorry for the long thread. I was thinking about making a post about it but I'm not sure people outside the news mega give a damn about these things anyway.

*Fossil fuel industry at that point was playing both sides. They knew that the world moving from fossil fuels was inevitable, but they wanted that transition to happen on their own terms. It had to be gradual so that they kept making superprofits and they had to create and control the new "green" monopoly.

**I wouldn't be surprised at all if lets say someone like Elon Musk does 180 in regard to EVs. Maybe he will pivot to another technology or maybe even he finds an excuse to outright sell Tesla (somehow...) and pivot to another grift altogether. That's if he manages not to go bust until then...

Steven Runciman's books about the period are considered some of the best.

I wonder what it would take for Burgerstanies to realize that they actually don't live in a democracy and their politicians are at best middle managers for a conglomerate of financiers, MIC/Security apparatus and energy/food monopolists. Does the Lockheed Martin CEO have to go in the Senate and start swinging his dick around screaming "I OWN THIS BITCH" while all the senators applaud? I mean Netanyahu basically did that and still nobody gave a shit.

Contrary to popular (social media) belief you do not have to have an opinion on everything. You can just shut up. If you got to have a opinion, have one that contributes , first and foremost, towards building socialism in your own country and if possible towards international solidarity. What you absolutely shouldn't do is cosplaying as the morally superior philosopher king up in the mountain that judges everything and everyone and especially people that have done things to better this world and the lives of ordinary people, despite all the limitations and all the contradictions.

So there is lot of talk from the McDonalds "Left" about the Venezuelan elections being fraudulent or whatever. I don't have first hand experience but a journalist that I respect has and she went as an election observer in Venezuela. (Breakthrough news has also done some great coverage from what I have seen)

She reported that:

• The election system that they have is probably one of the best (if not the best) in the world and is very hard to cheat. They have a triple verification system where you vote in an electronic machine using your fingerprint (instead of just an ID), you then get a receipt of what you voted (without any identification on the paper), and also the machine leaves a physical vote in a separate box so afterwards they can verify the differences between the receipts and what's in the ballot box.

• Things were very calm in every election center she went. There was violence in certain places elsewhere. The world on the street was that certain people(...) where giving 150 dollars to anyone willing to participate to anti government riots. She said there is tremendous misinformation. At some point they were saying that an airport was taken over by anti-government forces. The problem was she was at that airport at that time and nothing was happening!

• Internet is completely censor free. (Maybe you should rethink of it Nicolas...)

• Maduro made a request to the Venezuelan supreme court so that the opposition parties submit any evidence that they have in regard to the elections so they can be cross examined. (BTW, the supreme court is elected by the parliament that included the opposition parties of course...)

• Maduro had 5 assassination attempts against him in March alone. He wears bulletproof vest in his public appearances.

• In the last 15 years the government has built 5 million houses and has made the country food independent.

• Maduro when he gathered people around to express his thanks after the election he had 3 ambassadors beside him, those of China, Turkey and Iran

• Many of the cars in Venezuela streets are Chinese (a phenomenon that I see not only about cars but in everything across Latin America)

• Burgerland companies like Edison Research (that takes contracts from CIA, Voice of America etc.) where trying to create a climate, months before the elections, that basically the opposition was far ahead (they were polling the opposition as high as 70%!) so that when the real election results came they could say "Aha you see, our polling (that was 100% real of course) didn't match the election results so that means the government cheated!". So the western muppets ("left" and right) take what burgerland polling companies claim as better evidence than the election results themselves!

• NYT about a month ago reported that the base of the opposition was inside the embassy of Argentina! They did that because the government can't check what's getting in and what is getting out of an embassy. That's why we show supporters of the government trying to get inside the embassy after the elections.

Loser "Left" is very concerned about elections in Venezuela, Xinjiang, Hong Kong, Tibet in China, arming Naz...excuse me freedom fighters in Ukraine, women rights in Iran at convenient times, LGBT rights in Palestine at convenient times and voting for the lesser of two evils in the imperial core in order to protect their proper...democracy. All of this just happens to be a stance that is very convenient for the US state department...nothing to see here.