Yes, the voters suck, but that's all of them, not just the Trump ones. Every voter has been ignoring a genocide going on for the last year that their country is arming. That should've been the first sign that this country and the people in aren't good, that the people are selfish, that they are primed for fascism.

You dont care about the Palestinians? Well the Trump voters don't care about their mothers, daughters, wives, immigrants, minorities, or trans people. It's the exact same strain of selfishness, just evolved, but it comes from that same seed. Sucks, doesn't it?

Huh never realized it but this will be a great lesson in siege mentality if I ever have to explain communist states to people in the future.

"That and fear panic you feel about losing your way of life if Trump takes over? Ya, that's the feel all these AES states feel, and even worse since the US has done it before to other similar states and keeps trying. You can see why they have one party or restrict press freedoms from right-wing or foreign sources or ban politicians who try to start coups now, right? Doesn't seem like such a bad idea now, does it? "

Chuds: Everybody I know loves Trump so the election must have been stolen. Damn you Soros/(((globalists)))/the Hollywood elite!

Dems: Everybody knows they're worse so if you didn't come out to vote for us, fuck you. We'll be running the same strategy next election cycle btw, so hopefully outside conditions (like a pandemic or recession) make it work for us this time, otherwise we'll be blaming you even harder.

They either are going into a) full-on doomerism, this country sucks, will never elect a woman, is fully racist, etc. Which does make sense.
Or b) they're getting mad at the Dems, which is my preferred outcome so glad to see it happening all over the place.
Or c) they're getting mad at minorities, including Latinos and Arabs. Which sucks but is not unexpected either in this fascist af country.

I mean, they have better economic policies but only because Trump's economic policies would actively make things worse.

The problem is that their economic policies are neither non-existent or complicated incrementalist means-tested shit (tax breaks for minority middle-class, small business owners with two kids and a successful business in an undeserved neighborhood for 3 years; or debt relief for students in a private college that had lost accreditation and had a Pell grant or in a public service job or non-profit for ten years, etc). Turns out having better than a negative economic policy can only get you so far.

No doomerism! 😤 I know shit sucks right now, but this is the time to radicalize libs. A lot are despondent and looking for something to do and some explanation. With all that reading, you have an explanation to offer them. We got this!

May I suggest casual hangouts for a bit before you jump into more tense, drama-filled political organizations then? It might be easier to start with a less stressful environment.

Try meetup.com, FB events, or local subreddits and look for local board game groups, hiking or biking groups, co-ed sports leagues, cocktail networking events, wine tasting tours, book clubs, little things like that. It's easier in my opinion if there's another activity like board games to help facilitate the social interaction. I also recommend finding hobbies or shows you're interested in and going to conventions based on them. You might have to travel a bit if you don't live near a big city. Going back to school can also help you meet people. For me, I'd also go to local bars and places every now and then, even by myself, and look for flyers for game nights or other things they may have.

I know it doesn't answer your other general questions about what organizing or reading theory means, but since one of your big worries seems to be in engaging in social interaction, that's probably where I'd recommend starting. If I'm off base, sorry about that, just trying to help.

I've definitely heard the opposite. I just hope it doesn't turn into doomerism before us socialists can reach them and tell them why everything sucks.

But the graphs said things were getting better!

True. Right now they're still reeling, which is why now I think is the time to spread our messages and press them.

Makes sense. This is why I love hexbear. Everyone is so informed.

While I'm definitely afraid the DNC will go that way, I've been surprised by how many normal people I see not getting that out of the election on libs.world or Reddit. Sure, there's the occasional post still blaming Arabs or Latinos whatever, but I see a lot of anger pointed at the Dems instead that can be harnessed. This may turn out to be a great teaching and radicalizing moment if socialists take advantage of it now.

I think the fact that he won the popular vote means that the regular scapegoats they were planning on don't work. There was clearly not enough third party voters and they lost votes they had in 2020. It could just be sexism, but I think a lot of people have the feeling something else happened, something related to the campaign, or I wouldn't be seeing so much anger and disappointment directed at the Dems.