simontherockjohnson

I don't think Trump is capable of the Medvedev switch tbh.

If capital cannot profit off of you, it will kill you. Autistic people tend to be bad at the wage work capital demands of us - hence why so many of us are chronically unemployed.

This is an important point. We should remember that this means that the most realistic worse-case model they have to cleanse us en masse is corporate private prison contracting where some Trump friendly dipshit gets $25k/per body a month from the Fed to warehouse us in a concrete tomb.

They cannot kill us cheaply and we aren't actually a balance sheet problem because there is realistically social spending for the majority of us. They'll starve all disabled and poor people before they single us out in any effective way. We might be a trial balloon, but it's extremely unlikely that we'll get it nearly as bad as migrants.

Autism is just a political talking point for their shit for brains NT base who doesn't want to be shown anything on the TV except their own shallow world view, and for the people who they talk about the TV with in public to never tell them the TV is wrong. We're just a means to an end, effectively to get society to agree to the fact that kids should die of measles.

America in 2025 is utterly incapable of mega-projects like Japanese internment, the government has been too hollowed out. They spent $1.1 billion in 2025 dollars in the 1940's just to build the camps alone using the US Army Corps of Engineers, the CCA and WRA. They were mostly public works. Doing something of this size is going to be a major in-fight between oligarchs on who gets this money, and it won't be $1.1 b done over a year, it will balloon to hundreds of billions and be stuck in development hell because of all the inefficiencies.

A single prison today typically costs $1b. For example Indiana is currently building a new prison for $1.2 that holds 4,200 people. They started in 2023, they're expected to finish in 2027.

Don't get me wrong people will be hurt, but we are so laughably incapable of 20th century style population transfers.

Yeah he has. I am 50:50 on if he actually believes that or it's shoe horning stuff into Trump's policy agenda. I think he literally believes that we cannot work so how would labor camps even work? His whole "wellness farms" stuff was funny because bringing back RFK Jr. designed sanitoriums during a fascist austerity government after Regan happened is a nonstarter. I do not believe that RFK is going to be able to put together a network of camps and the mechanisms to round people up into them. ICE under Trump is less effective than under Biden/Obama but is more brazen. There's like several steps that here that aren't going to be easy, and it's a game of numbers not just if you'll get got by the RFK HHS but also if the RFK HHS will be able to get you at all.

I think RFK's average case success scenario for this is having some high profile arrests and claiming mission accomplished.

Remember that these systems were actually made effective or outright built by competent technocratic ghouls during the Democrat run government years. Bush's war in the middle east was a failure, Obama mechanized it and turned it into a success (politically speaking because he removed American troops from the political equation). Biden adopted Trump's border policy and made it work effectively and proved it out in the stats and Democrats were complaining that the evil fascists of the GOP weren't giving them credit for being good effective fascists.

What about the HHS classifications/work providing a basis for categorization for Federal LE action, ‘rounding up’?

My personal risk profile doesn't match this because there is no diagnosis. I think it can represent a real risk for others.

My opinion on this is that I think this is an RFK pet project that he's shoe horning into DJT's world view. I don't think RFK is long for being HHS secretary, because Trump doesn't like him and they are both guys who cannot share the spotlight.

There is real risk to real people from the Trump admin, but I think we have to temper the assessment of that risk with the political instability and the incompetence of a cartoonish fascist government. They are more effective with ICE and dissident management this time around because they had 4 years to plan, and they had several successful trial balloons between 2016-2020. I think creating pathological or technical criteria for the rounding up is something that is needed for a technocratic fascist positioning very much a Dem party thing (Think: You can't support Hamas they're terroristorinos!). Trump has been signaling that he's literally trying to fuck over those who simply disagree publicly. You do not need pathological criteria to rile up your base for that. Democrat, dissident, and anti-American are labels that can do that job just as effectively.

It's also not actually about the practical population transfer but imposing control. If they really wanted to get rid of autistic people esp. kids on the cheap they could do it through federal austerity faster/easier than putting us all in camps.

I can be wrong, but I just don't think RFK's agenda is going to be durable and mesh with the overall WH goals and this they have 6 of these types of pots on the stove so I'm not betting on RFK being a danger to me.

Also, idk if this comes off as risky to discuss publicly given everything, but do you mean having your passport for leaving later or that you already have and keeping it current is important (because obviously). And where are you considering for places to go other than the U.S.?

No I'm not leaving. I was naturalized as a child and the immigration law at the time did not provide children with their own naturalization documents. My proof of citizenship is my old collection of US passports, current passport / passport card. I can pay $5k for the INS to print me a certificate, but lol cmon.

This is my de jure defense of "I'm not fucking going to El Salvador", my de facto one is I keep that thing on me. My conditions for leaving the country are if it's not going to be possible for me and my partner to live here from an economic / personal safety POV. We aren't planning on children so I have it easier than most, and from the outside I can pass as "normal" from a ND/political POV. A lot of this stuff is very much "don't rock the boat" signal.

I have been at peace with the fact that I could be deported under US law since I was a teenager, so this isn't really anything new to me. This is just surviving. I'm doing my dailies.

One issue about these charts is often that they are not properly contextual and it gives people the wrong idea.

I would not describe myself as "easily bored", but I am "easily bored" as the pathological diagnostic criteria. The difference is that at this point in my life I have a high degree of independence, and I'm never bored. However as a child I was "easily bored" because my independence was curtailed by mandatory structure and activities. As a young adult I was easily bored for much the same reasons, etc.

Likewise the "self-diagnostic" is easy to just rack up points on. A common one on many of these kinds of charts is "losing belongings". Many people reflexively tell me that they can never find stuff so maybe they're ADHD, and I correct them every time. No you just misplace things sometimes. Things disappear to me like I don't have object permanence if I don't commit to where I'm putting them down and simply reflexively leave them somewhere.

A lot of this chart and many like it is clearly about children because most of the "problems" of being ADHD or Autistic are about having an annoying child regardless if the parent is ND or NT.

Also "giftedness" is not an ND condition and in practice you won't find people who are purely "gifted". The only definitions of giftedness as an ND condition that aren't fuzzy pablum are IQ race science things. It's practical application is only for children.

Gifted is something that was essentially defined by the US govt as someone who is so good at school they should get funding for harder classes for the good of the nation. There's a carve out for students who are "good artists" which obviously is derived from an extremely subjective and institutional understanding of art. There's also a carve out for students that are very charismatic but use their powers for "good" like student government, community service model UN or debate club, and not for "evil" like social engineering scams.

Yeah I'd almost never disclose ND status regardless of what it is and to what bureaucracy, it's almost always bad, and it's almost always on me to fight for any kind remedy regardless of disclosure. The liberal rules around disclosure esp. in the work place are effectively meant to make ND people more vulnerable. The standards protect only those with visible physical disabilities to a extremely minimal degree.

The only things protecting us have been HIPAA. That's actually the worst part about RFK's database, given that the government just leaked Abrego Garcia's wife's address to their stochastic psycho contingent.

In fact, it would not surprise me if suddenly they start picking up random US citizens and just declare them autistic.

I have my doubts about this because they are already doing this through ICE and they have said they are going to do it for people who disagree with the President regardless of their citizenship status.

RFK's HHS is not going to out-compete ICE to create a general gestapo model, it already exists, has for a long time, in multiple different modes. It's just that it was much more polite before.

I'm much more scared about keeping my passport up to date, and being denaturalized than I am about RFK's goofy autism caregiver based genocidal ideas.

The old approach has a lot of downsides esp. for our more visible comrades who need support.

I'm fine with "autist" tbh and describe myself as such. I've gone so far as to call some of my behavior when I know I should mask and don't for tactical reasons "weaponized autism". Honestly one thing that a lot of NTs don't understand is that some of us like that our neural patterns are autistic. I don't want to be NT, I like myself, I like how I think. Is it annoying that I get sensory issues? Sure, but I don't want to trade for the "benefits" of being an NT.

I'm also a Jew. People have used "Jew" as a slur before as well. Did getting hung up on saying "Jewish" or "person of Judaism" ever help prevent the Holocaust ? Did it help Jews get into a college other than Tulane before 1964? Whether someone respects you as a person isn't going to be changed through their language. They're just lying.

You can hate me, I can't change that. But make it easy on me and don't lie about it, I have a hard time with social cues. I prefer self describing as "autist" and it being a "bad word" for NTs. It makes it very clear not only who is autistic but how an NT feels about you as an autistic person. For others I typically use autistic because I know some autistic people don't like autist and it helps create that signal that's gonna make it easier for me to tell who to stay away from.

RFK's bullshit is very closely tied to the ideology of orgs that pretend to be focused on the needs of autistic people but actually and actively cater to caregivers of autistic people and their inherent ideology of "I have been saddled with this annoying child and someone needs to fix it." These orgs such as Autism (Caregivers) Speak are already genocidal in their talking points about autism, RFK is mainly catering to these people who believe we're broken and taking their ideas to their logical conclusions that we should not exist in our current mental states.

I had looked into autism diagnosis as an adult and there are basically no upsides. It's expensive and you'll have to fight doctors for it, and you'll be given a piece of paper that doesn't mean anything to anyone. There are no real resources (the ones gated by neoliberal austerity that require the paper) for autistic adults in the US from what I've seen. For adults it seems to be "just be thankful your support level is low".

Nobody is going to check your papers and kick you out of a support group or meeting for not having them.

Thanks! I'll message them!

Oh I disagree with this one anyone who says "I'm a progressive" means "I'm a good person". That one has been dispossessed of its original meaning and re-imbued with a very clear new one.

It's epithet context used by conservatives means "we don't think you're fascist enough".