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[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 35 points 2 weeks ago

Modern day Sparta, man.

Right down to itching for a good war with the next best thing to Persia like le funny 300 movie!

[-] miz@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago
[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

Baby killing and all.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Contrary to myth Sparta was like the least belligerent of major Greek states. If you want real frothy guys look Thebes, dudes were significant for like 20 years and in this time attacked literally everyone they could find on map.

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago

Also the reason they were less belligerent was that they had a massive slave underclass that revolted when Spartan army was away.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They certainly did feared that but in practice that happened only once, but usually they didn't even feared that much, as evidenced by them routinely arming helots in large numbers to use as slingers/peltasts screen for their hoplites, and those helots never once rebelled in the army. Spartans had interesting methods of controlling them though, mostly through secret police (krypteia, the killing ritual described in sources is almost certainly fake though, there's no other proof for it and it would caused rebellions like every two years) and in at least one case they took the rebellious helots, armed them (as hoplites! expensive as fuck!) and send them to conquer some other city, which was successful.

Thing about Spartan history though, which is very relevant for the current historiographers, is that basically no other state in antiquity is so propagandised. Basically everything we know about them was either from Xenophon who was incredible spartaboo and passed a lot of both praise and terror propaganda as truth, and from Roman era propaganda which was mostly fabricated for tourists (Sparta was first literal tourist power in history) and as such filled with 150% militarised heroic stories.

There are also material evidence that cult of mythical Sparta was already in motion just few years after Sparta was defeated by Thebes, even Theban soldiers copied Spartan aesthetics.

this post was submitted on 04 Oct 2024
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