Yeah, my accelerationist ass was hoping Trump would win so the dem's boogeyman predictions would come true and catapult us all towards the end times. But they won't. We millennials know not to expect anything we want.

[–] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honestly, hell if I know who would have been more accelerationist (I'd have bet on it being Kamala). Whomever wins things would get worse for the empire either way (not saying it shouldn't be fought or promoting defeatism- but the contradictions will continue to grow), but Kamala strikes me as the more neocon/hawkish of the two, with much more political baggage tagging along that is even worse, and as a more palatable (low bar) face with which the empire could absolutely wreak havoc on the rest of the world and even domestically on its own people with better PR/a more unified western imperialist order, etc.

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But doesn't that mean Trump is accelerationist, then? Because he would make it all crash and burn quicker? I think I don't quite get what accelerationism is, since I thought it wasn't about the magnitude of destruction, but the speed at which we arrived at it.

[–] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're all accelerationist, TBF. Not a single one seeks to change the issues inherent in the system, hell, they all make their living off of exacerbating it.

Trump being a perfect example of a vile human being, incredibly alienating to the rest of the western lackeys, and seeming to have a bit more self-preservation and less interest in plunging the world into WW3 goes a long way in being "less accelerationist," that said (IMO). Not that anyone should support either.

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump being a perfect example of a vile human being, incredibly alienating to the rest of the western lackeys, and seeming to have a bit more self-preservation and less interest in plunging the world into WW3 goes a long way in being "less accelerationist,"

Yeah I think this is the bit I don't get, because I read that as being "more accelerationist". I know it's a lot to ask, but would you mind explaining what you understand accelerationism to be or point me in the direction of some good reading?

[–] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

FWIW- I'm not an accelerationist, and don't really have any good reading to direct you to in that regard.

That said, to my understanding accelerationism is explicitly pushing to agitate/worsen the material conditions and contradictions of capitalism. And how Trump comes off as "less accelerationist" to me (IMO) is because- for the reasons I described- he is faced with more political resistance, from within the US as well as across the rest of the imperial cores. As for the bit about him being less of a warhawk- well, that goes without saying (that it is undeniably less accelerationist).

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you for explaining it to me, I really do appreciate it a lot! I can see what you mean now, it makes sense bean

[–] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 2 points 1 hour ago

Awesome! :D