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Hello users of Hexbear, we wanted to inform you that we are going to be locking the_dunk_tank and dredge_tank communities. We have created two new communities /c/gossip and /c/counterpropaganda to serve a similar but clearly distinct purpose than the dunk/dredge tanks.

Not only is the dunk tank a term that has racist origins, but also many posts there were almost no effort and often times requiring later edits to show how they weren't reactionary, ~~not useful with regard to developing rhetoric and furthering dialectical analysis of that which we dunk upon~~.

To that end, we wish posts of reactionaries to be placed in !counterpropaganda@hexbear.net along with an accompanying explanation (as simple or complex as desired) with the intent of countering the reactionary propaganda in the post body, as of now comments are not subject to the same ~~rhetorical rigor~~ rule.

For the posts ~~that are not "low-hanging fruit'~~ of notable people we ask that you use !gossip@hexbear.net .

These changes are mainly part of a continued effort to remove the racist and misogynistic elements from our community and grow.

Any moderators of the dunk tank or dredge tank that want to be a mod in the new communities let me know.

Any users with questions or comments please use this post, this change was made at the behest of the entire Hexbear mod and admin team. We will be looking for more moderators in an organized volunteer drive shortly, if you wish to submit an application you may send it to me via hexbear or matrix direct messages.

Use this post as a place for discussion to these changes. We will keep things as they are for 2 weeks and then reflect on the feedback, including this post: https://hexbear.net/post/3858346

As a personal addendum I am sorry if ~~the closing of the tanks~~ these changes removes a beloved space on the site and if you want to suggest a community to replace them you may do so at !commrequest@hexbear.net or submit a mod application to take a more active role in shaping the site.

Sitewide or community changes come from proposals put forth from the mod team, discussed, and voted on by the mod team.

Any users wanting to suggest a community to replace the tanks, may do so at !commrequest@hexbear.net current discussion is here https://hexbear.net/post/3858346 or submit a mod application to take a more active role in shaping the site.

You may also consider using !shitreactionariessay@lemmygrad.ml as a substitute for dunk/dredge tank posts as well

The mod statement can be found here: https://hexbear.net/comment/5613033

ApplicationWhat is your Hexbear username? Do you have any preferred pronouns? What are your thoughts on capitalism? What are your thoughts on imperialism? What are your thoughts on trans rights? What are your thoughts on racial justice? What do think about current and previous protests around the world? What are your thoughts on Veganism and Animal Liberation? Do you have any experience with other leftist online communities? What did those experiences teach you? What is your approach to moderation, and how do you work with teams? How do you deal with online drama and people who try to start things for the sake of it? What current comms would you be interested in moderating? Do you have any ideas for community engagement? What is your general time availability? (Time zone, amounts, common browsing times, etc)

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[–] CARCOSA@hexbear.net 70 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Consider using !shitreactionariessay@lemmygrad.ml as a substitute for dunk/dredge tank posts as well

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 93 points 1 month ago

Posting on other instances??

[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 71 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't want to post on fucking lemmygrad!

[–] Sickos@hexbear.net 53 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lemmygrad is actively hostile to anarchists and is not a valid substitute.

[–] Sickos@hexbear.net 34 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I hate, hate hate hate hate hate, the idea of becoming a moderator because AMAC/ACAB and the anarchist side of my ancom-ness would absolutely chafe (and a big pile of reddit-mod-own-fart-huffing-induced-squick), but if this is a moderation issue and you need folks to sift through the low effort bullshit--I'm gonna be reading all of the posts and comments anyway.

I'd assume there are others in the same situation.

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it's stewardship not being a cop

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm going to turn every trans person ever into a cop, actually

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] REgon@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago
[–] ScreamoBMO@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Gender Cop, premieres Summer 2025

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'd assume there are others in the same situation.

I'd definitely consider it.

Edit: And as an anarchist, you could consider modding a comm the online equivalent of running a DIY space or something. If someone comes in and starts smashing up the furniture and shitting on the floor, there's not a single anarchist I know that wouldn't kick them the fuck out.

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

Non-violently enforcing consensus community standards does not make you a cop. That's like the opposite of being a cop.

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 67 points 1 month ago

I will never stop browsing local even if you delete all the fun comms

[–] Esoteir@hexbear.net 64 points 1 month ago (1 children)

yeah idk I'm not a fan of the dunk/dredge tank myself and have spent their existence alternating between blocking and unblocking them from my feed

but telling users to use a lemmygrad comm as an alternative is not a solution for any scenario considering they are pretty hardline sectarian against a big chunk of this site, and tbh it concerns me that this is even being suggested as a substitute

[–] CARCOSA@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

that is a good point I'll edit to include !commrequest@hexbear.net as an alternative

[–] Esoteir@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

appreciate the edit bean

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 63 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If you're genuinely open to considering creating replacement comms, then why not just unlock the dredge tank and tweak the rules so it's also open for the kind of content that was previously suited for the dunk tank? If the mods there don't want to continue I'm sure you'll find new ones, I'd even consider it myself tbh.

This just seems overly complicated, assuming it's even sincere to begin with.

[–] dustbunnies@hexbear.net 34 points 1 month ago (2 children)

assuming it's even sincere to begin with.

this makes me feel like I'm missing something

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why wouldn't it be sincere?

[–] Grebgreb@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think he's echoing a sentiment brought up by footfaults:

https://hexbear.net/comment/5608017

I'm fine with a name change but I feel like the new rules miss the point. Unless the unstated point is "we don't want low effort anymore, go elsewhere"

[–] dustbunnies@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

that makes sense, thank you ❤️

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] dustbunnies@hexbear.net 40 points 1 month ago (7 children)

getting stress hives from reading this thread lmao wtf

this is the first time online community stress has caused it, which I'm pretty sure means I care for you all very very much.

really glad I missed the frequent struggle session days, would have just been a walking rash irl 😂

[–] Blockocheese@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Please take a break for a little, comrade meow-hug

We'll be here when youre back and things calm down

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh no! Logout then meow-hug Nothing good comes from a strugglesession if you don't enjoy the struggle iself.

[–] dustbunnies@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

meow-hug it's okay, it's mostly just unsightly, I got it way worse before I went to my neighbors' Halloween party a couple weeks ago 😂

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

Honestly in that case, just log out and come back in a few days, it usually all blows over by then. Most of the time it's just pointless arguments that lead to nowhere.

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Take a break, comrade! meow-hug

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I know what you mean, i actually really like hexbear too ... maybe the first time my crusty ol heart has opened since my mIRC days

[–] dustbunnies@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

oh 😞 yeah, I was definitely missing a lot. thank you.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not mad, I'm disappointed

[–] CARCOSA@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The current dunk tank mods participated in the discussion and subsequent vote to make this change. You have been a valued member of the community for years and your care for the community is clear, if you would like to take a more active role in shaping the site please send me a mod application or submit an idea for the community you think would be a good replacement in !commrequest@hexbear.net

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago

I sincerely appreciate the sentiment, but this still isn't an answer to the question I asked.

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 42 points 1 month ago

Lemmygrad is sectarian as hell though