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[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 88 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I like that we have/need new books to re-report information that was widely known decades ago because of how easy it is to sell propaganda to the west. We have actual documentaries, made by the west at the time of Tiananmen, that completely contradicts the massacre narrative that was invented years later. lol. Libs really will believe anything as long as it comes from the mouth of some oligarch backed talking head.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 79 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The key reason this kind of lazy propaganda works is because people want to believe it. It leverages the latent racism and capitalist realism people have internalized living in decaying western societies. The idea that a country that doesn't follow liberal ideology could be more successful is a complete anathema to these people.

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 1 year ago

Indeed. "The west is the best" is the prevailing thought in the zeitgeist of the west. So as bad as things can be in the west, at least they are still "the best." But if other nations actually practice "freedom and liberty" better than they do, despite not screaming about how "free" they are all the time, it calls the whole western narrative into question. And causes a lot of cognitive dissonance. And people in the west are not given the tools they need to deal with that, so they just lash out and get angry, or find an easy excuse to ignore it.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The massacre false narrative was invented basically at the same time as the actual events of the 4th/5th took place, you can see foreign diplomatic actors who were there talk about how "others" are saying there was machine gun fire on crowds while they themselves saw no such thing.

Edit: Someone else posted one of the leaks I was thinking of: https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/89BEIJING18828_a.html

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Have you seen that chart that tracks how Americans went from credditing the USSR for making the greatest sacrifice in WWII and contributing the most to victory in 1946, to completely removing the Soviet contribution from the picture by the 80s? It's really sad. The Red Army deserves better.

[–] Emanuel 3 points 1 year ago

I'm interested in the documentaries, if you could cite them. Not trying to be snarky and say "Sauce?", just genuinely curious and I'd like to watch a documentary on the topic, anyway.