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[–] Rev@lemmygrad.ml 108 points 1 year ago (8 children)
[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 79 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Basic image analysis like this should have been done ages ago, but libs don't care about the truth just blind propagandizing

[–] Rev@lemmygrad.ml 86 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was honestly so surprised myself when I realized that the supposed most famous picture of the massacre didn't show a single dead body. Just makes you think about how easily can falsehood be used for propaganda.

[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 78 points 1 year ago (3 children)

One of the first casualties of the whole protest was an unarmed PLA officer that was tied to a bus by the protestors and burnt alive. Then mocked and photographed. They never share that photo around though.

[–] WaterBowlSlime@lemmygrad.ml 70 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Westerners refuse to believe that about half the fatalities were PLA members because in their countries, the police would never be unarmed, never abandon their equipment, never hesitate to kill in retaliation.

Westerners also don't pity the murdered PLA officers because they view them the same as their own police: violent people that eagerly abuse their power.

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 55 points 1 year ago (15 children)

I think that's the most eye-opening thing about this "massacre"

if this had happened in the US, the streets would have run with rivers of blood. It would've been utterly brutal. And the US would be the one rewriting history to try and pretend it never happened. It's always projection.

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[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I didn't know there was a video of tank man until like two years ago. It was always shown as an image with the implication he was then killed

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago (9 children)

i distinctly remember being 'informed' that "right after this photo, he was disappeared by the secret police and never seen or heard from again!"

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[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 65 points 1 year ago (5 children)

the Tiananmen Square Bicycle Massacre

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[–] Sinister@hexbear.net 90 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The only reason whitey even gives a shit about these dead chinese people is that they hate china so much. After all, half of them are still secretly jerking themselves off at the thought of millions of chinese farmers dying due to the Three Gorges Dam going broke.

[–] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same can be applied to Xinjiang propaganda. "Oh, the State Department now cares about Muslim lives?"

[–] Dingus_Khan@hexbear.net 64 points 1 year ago

The US led war on terror killed more Muslims than exist in Xinjiang

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 54 points 1 year ago

Yea lol, i don't think i've ever heard a liberal even mention the student massacre in Mexico in the late 60s. They don't give a shit, they just use it as a justification for their hatred.

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[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 88 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I like that we have/need new books to re-report information that was widely known decades ago because of how easy it is to sell propaganda to the west. We have actual documentaries, made by the west at the time of Tiananmen, that completely contradicts the massacre narrative that was invented years later. lol. Libs really will believe anything as long as it comes from the mouth of some oligarch backed talking head.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 79 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The key reason this kind of lazy propaganda works is because people want to believe it. It leverages the latent racism and capitalist realism people have internalized living in decaying western societies. The idea that a country that doesn't follow liberal ideology could be more successful is a complete anathema to these people.

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[–] NothingButBits@lemmygrad.ml 68 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Libs will probably lose their minds if they can't make jokes about Tiananmen Square.

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Thread I wrote about Tiananmen: https://twitter.com/prolewiki/status/1666492127730098208 (Thread reader link due to Musk fuckery on twitter)

CIA-funded leader Chai Ling crying crocodile tears hoping students will be shot while she herself deadpan says she'll be out of the country: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5__ESiklA1A. She was later extradited by the CIA during Operation Yellowbird and now lives in the USA.

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[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It was not fabricated, it was exaggerated. Clashes occurred around Beijing and bloodshed was real. Most of them were Maoists clashing with pro market reform government.

[–] WhatWouldKarlDo@lemmygrad.ml 74 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Nobody is denying bloodshed. There absolutely were violent protests outside the square. The claim in question is that the military gunned down thousands of peaceful protesters in the square, which so far as I know is a claim that's exclusively made by people who were not there.

[–] WayeeCool@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Even that is giving too much credit to the US government narrative.

There literally are all the US mainstream news outlets like CBS News who actually had reporters there at the time: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/there-was-no-tiananmen-square-massacre/

Also from classified US communications with assets on the ground: https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/89BEIJING18828_a.html

Funniest thing is that "tank man" photo idiots spam on Reddit all the time. Most people in the west don't realize there is video of it, that the guy didn't get run over. Furthermore they assume he was blocking tanks heading towards the square, infact those tanks were at the time headed away from the square to avoid engaging with armed agitators (people with guns and grenades that had killed police) in a crowded environment. Dude was trying to make them go back.

The deaths that day were people who got gunned down by the "protestors" or the police who were killed when the "protestors" threw grenades (military ordnance) into police vehicles. People that were armed by the CIA as part of a color revolution operation, one that failed because it didn't actually have any support and more importantly because the PLA commander on the scene ordered his units to leave the area rather than responding in kind. The only actual protestors that day were communists having labor protests happening nearby and not the dancing libertine youth acting as the face of the US color revolution operation involving armed groups trying unsuccessfully to provoke the PLA soliders into responding to deadly attacks with deadly force in a crowded urban environment.

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[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

for a breakdown of this topic in particular, also see this, particularly section 3 for any liberals reading this

(the book is also available on libgen.is as a PDF and EPUB)

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[–] Fissionami@lemmy.ml 49 points 1 year ago

~let me put this here real quick~

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