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[–] rando895@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Cartoons like this always make me wonder if straight men actually like women....

[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 30 points 13 hours ago (6 children)

There's a difference between heterosexuality and heteronormativity. There's the orientation, which in itself would be neutral, and there's the cultural practice, which does not care about couples being happy, but about enforcing the class nature of gender as a societally instrumentalized distribution of labor. As queer people, we are used to having to figure things out for ourselves and building our own views on identity, desire and relationships from the ground up. Straight people grow up fitting into a culture that tells them how to be, how to want and how to love, which inevitably leads to failure, because this includes an oppositional sexism that molds men and women into irreconcilable opposites of each other. When men are from Mars and women are from Venus, everybody ends up married to an alien. All working straight relationships i've seen fall outside of this norm, and the partners in them have usually both had to do some thorough self crit in regards to what they want out of a relationship and what they are willing to give, normally after several catastrophically failed attempts in the past. And i don't find it surprising at all that most men in these relationships are closer to lesbians than to other straight guys in what they want in a woman, what they find attractive and how they want things to run in their relationship.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Monogamy vs non-monogamy is another axis of this, where people often find their unexamined assumptions challenged.

[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, absolutely. Libs who don't bat an eye when they learn i'm trans immediately go into this defensive "that would never work for me" mode when i mention i'm poly, and really struggle with the idea that anybody could be fine with non-monogamy.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 hour ago

My favorite is "I knew a poly couple and they broke up (but nevermind all the monogamous people who broke up)"

[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 4 points 8 hours ago

Oh no! My smooth himbo brain grew a wrinkle!

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 9 points 10 hours ago

yeah, you're not allowed to explore and figure out what you want, you're suppose to make permanent commitments only or nothing ever.

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 17 points 12 hours ago

good post. I struggled in earlier relationships and, looking back, feel like most of the conflict was driven by the discrepancy of unspoken buy-in for cultural expectations of our roles, with which we had both been indoctrinated.

[–] rando895@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 12 hours ago

Damn, I was just making a funny whilst pooping. I didn't expect this.

Thank you, t'was a good read

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 7 points 11 hours ago

men are from Mars and women are from Venus

That fucking book did so much damage to our collective psyche, I'm glad it's finally started to fade from consciousness.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 14 points 13 hours ago

”I hate my wife” being such a common boomer joke is just them telling on themselves, because come on, there's no way their wives are supposedly always ”nagging” for no reason at all.