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Like whats its whole deal? it was western backed but doesn't it work with the syrian government? Are they communists?

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[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

They steal oil from anti-imperialist nations which would be used to fund and support said nations and instead sell it to the US and Israel, the latter having praised them heavily in the past while giving them direct aid - the parallels to Israel are alarming and the fact that any leftist here supports them is disappointing, especially after the events of the last year and the continuing escalation of war in West Asia.

They are essentially a military base for the US in Syria, with the SDF being literally named by a US General. They have taken weapons from Yzidi and other ethnic minorities in the region claiming they would protect them and then let them be slaughtered. They have participated in rounding up ethnic minorities and imprisoning them.

They are fully a proxy of the US and do their bidding.

People have romanticized them because of their origin story but failed to keep up with their transformation from a legitimate revolutionary movement into a full puppet of imperialism. Supporting ethno-nationalism is not it, it isn't hard to see this for what it is, and their attempts at covering their ethno-nationalism with shallow "look at our token Assyrian, Yzidi, etc member" instantly vanishes if you speak to a Kurd who supports Kurdistan about their desire for a Kurdish state.

It is Israel 2.0.

Supporting Rojava is supporting the US grip in West Asia, including Israel, it is supporting the occupation of sovereign nations by US proxies, and is anti-communist. It seems like people have a liberal notion that because some Kurds are self proclaimed communists means they are actual, real communists. We have had hundreds of examples at this point to prove that people who call themselves communists or socialists aren't magically principled, correct, sincere, or worth supporting. Stop romanticizing these people and do some actual research. They follow the guidance of a man who rejected Marxism Leninism for his own brand of Bookchin-thought which has spun off into an obvious cult of personality around him, why are y'all still stanning this?

I could see "critical support" over a decade ago but at this point there is nothing to support and everything to criticize. The people of Syria including the Kurds would be more liberated under a sovereign and independent Syria that isn't occupied by the US via their proxies. We don't need imperial proxy ethnostates for national liberation.

links from a variety of sources - as always, do your own research and dig deep because this topic is heavily dominated by imperialist voices: https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2020/08/10/heres-the-current-us-plan-to-build-up-syrian-proxies-including-an-oilfield-guard-force/ https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2017/05/07/syrian-kurds-are-now-armed-with-sensitive-us-weaponry-and-the-pentagon-denies-supplying-it/ https://leftistcritic.wordpress.com/2017/05/24/until-imperialism-is-defeated-in-the-region-the-kurds-and-the-syrian-arab-republic/ https://dissidentvoice.org/2017/05/a-liberated-area-in-the-middle-east-western-imperialism-in-rojava/ https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2021/08/29/2562389/protesters-condemn-us-arrest-of-300-syrian-tribesmen https://dissidentvoice.org/2017/05/the-illegal-entity-of-rojava-and-imperial-divide-and-rule-tactics/ https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-usa-exclusive-idUSKCN1AX1RI/ https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/w/sdf-commander-pro-us-statements-sound-alarm-amid-rumours-of-rift-in-kurdish-movement#.YgmgAXmQeJY.twitter https://www.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/dfo27v/repost_an_antiimperialist_orientation_toward/ https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-oil-usa/syria-says-us-oil-firm-signed-deal-with-kurdish-led-rebels-idUSKBN24Y0FD http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-11/18/c_139523204.htm https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/eight-killed-protests-against-kurdish-led-forces-northern-syrian-city-2021-06-01/ https://www.defenseone.com/policy/2021/02/coalition-plans-expand-giant-isis-prison-syria/172270/ https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/no-education-under-us-backed-sdf-rule https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/06/10/heres-what-the-centcom-commander-says-about-the-possibility-of-syria-afghanistan-withdrawals/ www.militarytimes.com/articles/ypg-turkey-socom-terrorism-rebrand https://www.reddit.com/r/communism101/comments/114vcsx/comment/j929afg/?context=3

Definitely Israel 2.0 even down to the point of being considered “socialist” when they’re not

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