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Your org needs to literally stop onboarding white men (and maybe white people entirely depending on your gender split) to be sure you represent the real national makeup of the revolutionary class. A revolution in the US will necessarily be centered on the Black nation, and if you end up 90% white it's going to be basically impossible to meaningfully recruit Black people, and then you're not a part of the revolutionary movement anymore. Even if every white guy in your branch is a dedicated Black Nationalist, anti-colonialist feminist (which they should be), people are simply not going to believe it if your org looks like a country club.
My
branch was mostly white guys when it was very small, and we intentionally restricted growth along these lines for years to correct that demographic error. Our gender imbalance was totally resolved in about 6 months, and so we tightened the onboarding rules even more. We tell white recruits straight up that they're going on a waiting list while we prioritize POC comrades. Our national composition is now much closer to our geographic area, but it remains a policy we have to keep in place (thought a bit less restrictive) to be sure we maintain that throughout our future growth.
I appreciate the response, thanks.
maybe it got taken insincerely
Seems like an excuse to not do anything
you can be a freind of the party, you get the education and you volenteer for the party but you dont take up space in membership since youre sooooooooooooooooooo concerned.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE??
You did not read his comment
It's that simple. Do you get it now?
The people on our wait-list that stay engaged, show up to events, and help with organizing tasks are the ones who make it in. The ones who bail because being white put them at the back of the line instead of the front for the first time in their lives aren't serious revolutionaries in the first place.
What does party membership entail above and beyond these things? Asking out of raw ignorance on my part. Just showing up and listening or helping out is all I'd expect to do anyway for a long while.
You take on all the rights and responsibilities of a member. You pay dues, you attend regular meetings, you go through the education program, you have the right to vote, you are assigned tasks to complete with the expectation that you will do them in a timely and professional manner, and you are a representative of the party in all political contexts.
Appreciate it
You should reach out to your local revolutionary organization and ask how to get involved. I didn't say "no white people ever". I said that white guys are significant de-priority for organizations who already have an abundance of them. It may be in your area there's no demographic imbalance in the org and they can take you in no problem. Or maybe there is, and you'll need to exist in a more peripheral role than a full member for a while. You can still provide time, labor, and other resources.
Advocating for segregation now? That was fast.
When you're trying this hard to miss the point, you just come across as exactly the person this article was written about. Not that it matters; by your own admission, you don't organize anyways.
You won't make POCs uncomfortable because you're white, but because you refuse to listen to them.
This is ass backwards levels of racism and white American fuckoonery.
Let me be clear we do not want you. We never want you. We despise plastic Irish Americans who think they will just invade our home and shack up cos they decided being Irish is romantic now and not white slurs. We do not want you here. People like you are a joke and its genuinely insulting you think you'd be welcome or that your dog shit cracker ass American white boy takes would be tolerated.
Get a grip. No POC in Ireland? My God you are a dumb #£%*