It's almost certainly because of the tankie factory that is .ml and the fact that it's admins are all hard core tankies (including the main dev! And ofc the whole infamous Nutomic transphobe incident)

Coupled with the fact that a few of the biggest communities are on .ml does not bode well.

That's why I keep calling for a general boycott against posting content or comments on .ml communities.

.ml doesn't want growth, they want a tankie echo chamber, if anybody wants to actually see Lemmy grow at a healthy pace it starts with shuning the hostile tankies and their instances.

[–] occultist8128@infosec.pub 12 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

sorry, but what does tankie mean?

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 17 points 12 hours ago

Generally, those who praise authoritarian regimes who mask, or attempt to, themselves in the cloak of communism/socialism e.g. China or Russia and are SUPER anti-West (Parroting views of the China Russian regime)

Which comes with a whole host of shit takes, like Russia being justified in their invasion or even denying Tiennamen Square and definitely denying the China Uyghur genocide

Basically, they've gone so far left they've circled back into Right-wing authoritarianism

[–] walden@sub.wetshaving.social 11 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

[–] occultist8128@infosec.pub 7 points 11 hours ago

oh i thought tankie means different here

[–] kat@orbi.camp 3 points 12 hours ago

Same, no idea... Tank wearing people? Lol

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 20 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Coupled with the fact that a few of the biggest communities are on .ml does not bode well.

https://lemmyverse.net/communities?order=active_month

0 community in the top 10
2 communities in the top 20

That’s why I keep calling for a general boycott against posting content or comments on .ml communities.

!linux@programming.dev is a good alternative to !linux@lemmy.ml

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Well I was going by subscriber count, but good to know that it's not as bleak going by (probably more accurate metric to go by) MAUs, but still memes@lemmy.ml is #10 in the top 10

For memes either !memes@lemmy.world or !memes@sopuli.xyz is a good alternative to memes@lemmy.ml

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't number 10 !politics@lemmy.world ?

Also, by the active numbers metrics, those other memes communities definitely took over the ml one

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

Oh it is, ig I miscounted lol

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Still many top tech communities (in their niche) are on ML. Open source, Linux, Privacy, Raspberry Pi, Firefox come to mind.

Several hexbear communities are also in the top 50.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I mentioned l !linux@programming.dev already

The alternatives are there, most of the people just don't seem to care enough to leave the .ml ones

Several hexbear communities are also in the top 50.

Are they? I see 2.6k monthly active users for !chapotraphouse@hexbear.net, which is definitely lower than top 50, seems more like 80 or 90, or even past 100 (currently on my phone, can't really count accurately, and Lemmyverse doesn't have row numbers)

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 7 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

I do use all the ML alternatives, but engagement is notably lower. I almost wish LW would just bite the bullet and defederate from ML.

Yeah, maybe more like top 100 for hexbear. I am on mobile too.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 1 hour ago

Yes, I guess for tech people the political stances are irrelevant, they just want the most active communities

Having access to the devs via !lemmy@lemmy.ml and !lemmy_support@lemmy.ml is probably why

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Everyone should defederate from that toxic shithole. It serves no purpose that isn’t duplicated elsewhere only without the heavy-handed admin/mod team.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I almost wish LW would just bite the bullet and defederate from ML.

I get the feeling that even if you got what you wanted, you would still complain about .ml

Right now, you could block .ml personally. Have you blocked .ml?

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago

I have not, no. There are still some technology communities that are only present on ML. Outside of those, I do not interact with ML.

And what's with your prima donna attitude? What exactly is the problem with calling out an instance run by genocide white-washing tankie scum?

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I almost wish LW would just bite the bullet and defederate from ML.

I really don't understand why they won't, they did it with lemmygrad and hexbear but with .ml they wanna take this kid glove approach. The best theory I got is they don't want to because of the more active communities on there ig

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 1 hour ago

Having access to the devs via !lemmy@lemmy.ml and !lemmy_support@lemmy.ml is probably why

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 hours ago

Make your own instance and defederate .ml or any of the other instances you hate. Go nuts! Show us how it's done.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

That’s why I keep calling for a general boycott against posting content or comments on .ml communities.

I mean......I joined that boycott months ago, and I don't think I've ever seen you before this moment.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Bro. I just posted a meme about it 3 days ago

And I post from time to time about it, enough that some of the more prominent .ml users have started to take notice lmao

I've also been consistently for weeks now cross-posting a ton of fresh (non-tankie anyways) content to the relevant non-.ml communities, it's like the bulk of my posts rn lol

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago

I guess posting on the alternatives rather than about it would be cool too