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[โ€“] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

everybody who doesn't need a car for transportation is the bourgeoisie and needs to be shot to ensure more roadspace for the proletarian individual automobile

Depending on the country this is sort of true, because many workplaces require a full licence to even be considered for work.

But it's also missing a few important things. What about disabled people? People who can't afford lessons or even the tests? People with no support network (no family, friends to teach them to drive)?

There are many such cases of these, even here on hexbear, we have users in these situations. I was one of them for a period of my life and it fucking sucks, socially it's embarrassing to admit you can't drive, and professionally? It limits your options so much, even in cases where it shouldn't.

Carbrain is awful.

[โ€“] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Depending on the country this is sort of true, because many workplaces require a full licence to even be considered for work.

love to be the homless bourgeoisie

Point begin even this argument among class lines always ignores the low end of the working class who do not have cars because those cost a decent amount of money

[โ€“] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Personally I also hate it because cars are effectively privatization of transportation costs. The government doesn't have to pay for your car repairs (which are inevitable given how much people have to drive), you get to pull yourself up with your bootstraps and pay for it yourself. And people wonder why this country is going to shit when there is no real support to even get people to jobs with the infrastructure we have.

[โ€“] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

Cars aren't even really just privatization in the sense that the cost is offloaded onto the invidual instead of the state, you just both pay your private car and also for the roads, which barring things like sea-connecting canals are about the most expensive infrastructure there is. Regardless of the mode of production the entire concept just doesn't work out on economics, like, at all.

[โ€“] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

Right, but I did outline cases where it's just pure carbrain shrug-outta-hecks

[โ€“] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What about disabled people?

I have a processing delay that makes operating a car feel way too abrupt and terrifying to me, so I've never had a license, I have always biked and bused. Not that I have ever been able to afford a car, I would be terribly vulnerable in a place where you absolutely need one. A cluster of hidden disabilities that make exploiting your labor unprofitable by a thousand cuts has a special sort of stigma attached to it, and it's a special sort of mindfuck to gradually break free of the cloud of eugenicist denial you were raised under and see it for what it is.

[โ€“] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

I would be terribly vulnerable in a place where you absolutely need one.

It fucking sucks when this is the norm, trust me.

Otherwise, I hope you're doing okay, comrade rat-salute-2