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[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

90% of online leftism is plauged by the fear of coherent tactics or strategy.

Yes, we will (critically) support any means to enable the ends we want.

And yes, that involves teaming up with unsavoury characters at times

It involves with dealing with the messy transition to socialism (which is not a pure ideal that can be implemented simply because "I wanna")

And most importantly, it involves using violence to defend revolutionary gains.

I would much rather we win the climate wars rather than die to roving bands of fascists militants/states looking to hunt minorities.

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yes, we will (critically) support any means to justify the ends we want.

I won't support, even critically, any means to justify the end we want. I will support some means and make a moral balance, but I won't support just any means

And most importantly, it involves using violence to defend revolutionary gains.

To me, more than "using violence to defend revolutionary gains", it's being aware that the ones in power right now in class war aren't afraid of using such violence, and we need to defend ourselves, sometimes preemptively, from such violence.

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I won’t support, even critically, any means to justify the end we want. I will support some means and make a moral balance, but I won’t support just any means

In practice I'd keep some things off the table as well, but our attitude should reflect the seriousness of the situation we are facing. Possibly hundreds of millions of people are going to die needless deaths in the coming decades.

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago

Balkan Odyssey has a video on the death toll of capitalism and the number is on the hundreds of millions already. I'm just saying that there are some means I won't support, without needing to specify which or why I guess. Morality is a grey thing