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We don’t have the draft though. Not sure what you mean.
We have the mechanisms still in place for it. All men (18-30?35?) are forced to sign up under the selective service act. They usually do it when you get an ID, you just sign an extra piece of paper when you get your license or ID card as a teen... And then hopefully nothing happens with it
But make no mistake, it is in place, and there are people constantly advocating we use it
I’m aware and yeah it should be abolished but I still wouldn’t say we have the draft currently. It could be brought back though.
Thankfully the sentiment in the US recently has been fairly anti-war so I am not sure they could get away with it barring some kind of extreme events.
We don't have an active draft in that they're not drafting people, but I think having the ability to call a draft is generally what people mean by draft
And I certainly hope you're right... They're trying to drum up support for war with Iran, and if that goes ok for them we're not going to have less war
Are they? What are they saying regarding Iran?
They can't have nukes, they're close to having nukes, general nuke hysteria, "we couldn't make a deal", going over the history of Iran and Israel (obviously not mentioning how Israel blew up their negotiator just now or Iran's attempts to deescalate and normalize global relations for years now), reminding everyone Iran sponsors terrorist groups, etc etc
I mean there's congress members calling for us to launch an attack on them explicitly, some wanted us to launch the first strike on the enrichment facilities while we were still trying to make a deal
We're in the "feel out the room" stage, they've had a carrier group in the area since like January. The next stage is announcing they've already attacked
I agree they’re putting out feelers but I don’t think they’ll get traction. I didn’t find anyone calling for direct US intervention, mainly just indirect support for Israel. Who was saying that?
I also found some leaders explicitly saying the US should not get involved. I guess it feels a lot different from the post-9/11 years when it felt like only political radicals were opposed to war, and basically every mainstream voice was cheering it on. So that’s why I’m a bit more optimistic.
Well, just to follow up...
I mean, here's the start of a NYT article
And later on
Search is basically unusable at this point, but here's fetterman calling for strikes a couple months back, he's been consistently one of the loudest
My point is, no one is explicitly saying we should go to war with Iran... But there's a lot of talk of strikes. No one is saying we should give Israel troops... Just "everything they need, intelligence, arms, everything"
What I'm hearing is a whole lot of not ruling out troops on the ground. From both parties, with not nearly enough resistance
I do hope you're right, but I'm getting very concerned. Not so much on the draft (I think we're a good ways off from there) but from us going to war, and if that goes well doing it again.
If it happens and the resistance isn't strong enough... Well, authoritarians often use war to stay in power
People were anti war in 1916 and 1917 in the US. Didn't stop a draft.