https://lemmy.world/comment/3295001
I'm starting to notice the half of Lemmy not federating with Hexbear is even more reactionary on average than I thought.
It's the dunk tank.
This is where you come to post big-brained hot takes by chuds, libs, or even fellow leftists, and tear them to itty-bitty pieces with precision dunkstrikes.
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Amerikkka draws a big line down the middle of Korea with a crayon
KOREA HAS INVADED ITSELF AND IT'S UP TO AMERIKKKA TO SAVE THEM FROM THEMSELVES BY
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INVADING, GIVING MONEY AND WEAPONS TO A FASCIST DICTATOR WHO COLLABORATED WITH THE JAPANESE, AND LEVELING ALL CITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE NORTH AND PURGING SOCIALISTS/COMMUNISTS/ANARCHISTS FROM THE SOUTH AND TURNING THE SOUTH INTO A VASSAL STATE AND GLORIFIED UNITED STATES MILITARY BASE AND PRIVATIZING THEIR ECONOMY AND....
Liberals: This is progressive and defensive against proletarian imperialism!
This is reductive. The line wasn't unilaterally drawn by American troops, it was the agreed-upon meeting place for the US and Soviet allies. Then the US wouldn't play ball with organizing free and fair elections (they insisted on banning left-wing parties).
Far more productive in talking with Liberals is bringing up that North Korea was the higher GDP, higher life expectancy, and whatnot up until the 90s, and that it was
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The collapse of Soviet economic support and the end of the military junta in South Korea that is to blame for the DRPK's woes, not it's socialism.
Interesting, could you expand more on this point?
I don't have the exact dates, but South Korea gets framed as having always been this multiparty liberal democracy when it was a right wing military dictatorship into the 90s.
People often want to frame North Korea as being behind, less developed, and whatnot, and will insinuate its inherent to its government structure. But, life expectancy, education, and economics in the North all outpaced the South while both countries were totalitarian and authoritarian.
Then, economic liberalisation in the south lead to a stronger economy that created the popular image of South Korea in people's minds today, meanwhile the Soviet Union collapsed, meaning that the North's economic security was weakened as it lost a trading partner and ally.
The metrics that people point to now as evidence of why North Korea is a "bad" country only came about within the last few decades, even though much of those same metrics have been true for capitalist countries for far longer.