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[-] Bloobish@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

Most recolonization projects are geared towards land determination being returned to indigenous groups, an example of this type of determination being violated is the long history of pipelines being brought through or near Native land within this century, as well as mineral/oil rights being fucked over as well and thereby financial proceeds drawn away that would support the community (there's a reason why so many Tribal lands push for casinos is due to the income and jobs that supports the community and creates a tourist economy that is distinctly different from those commonly seen outside of tribal areas (i.e. shitty jobs, worker exploitation, money going towards some out of state LLC). Still though this is one type of interpretation but none that I've seen so far are in the "drive everyone the fuck away from us" and is instead more towards "hey can we not have settler waste shit placed near us or have our resources taken without our knowledge/consent?". Additionally a lot of land near most contested indigenous grounds has been dismantled into larger big AG projects so if that land was taken back it's mainly being taken and redistributed from corporate collectives i.e. fuck Monsanto etc.

[-] LovesAGoodPigRoast@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Again.... you think capitalist will give you capital because you asked them for it? I mean, I'm in no way saying not to, and I hope you do. I'm sure you'll get a concession or two. But thinking the state will forgore any sovereignty willingly is idealistic. Please tell me if I'm wrong and it's a common practice somewhere. I've just never heard of it outside of the small reservations given already.

[-] Bloobish@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

...No? Like my assumption for every aspect of anti colonization efforts is that cpaital must be destroyed or under the boot of a worker dictatorship. I was just explaining on how anti colonialist goals are pretty simply about being free from settler actions directed by empire/capital

[-] LovesAGoodPigRoast@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Oh okay, sorry for misunderstanding. I saw a lot of people here advocating for this with out the element the establishment of a worker dictatorship. I just think the "white people" in the meme have the correct to response when hearing people say this because they know the level of violence it will take for them to forego any sovereignty. I understand your point is that native people's aren't arguing for a role reversal in the system of oppression that exists now.

[-] Bloobish@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah nah, the rights of workers and indigenous people both cannot exist in our current capitalist system and there ain't no "re-configuring it" like neoliberals think can happen (similar to "green capitalism" in attempts to rebrand capital).

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