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[-] RedQuestionAsker2@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

When I've had the conversation in the image, it's never had a chance to go anywhere near policy talk.

That's weird because in real life and online, when I've had these conversations, I've tried to immediately ask about policy, but nobody can give me a straight answer.

I just get vague notions like "give the land back" (to who exactly, and how is that decided?) Or allowing indigenous people to have a say in what happens to their land (like, does it become a special autonomous political area in the US? A separate entity all together?)

When I ask these questions, they go to the line from the meme "lol you just think they're gonna genocide you." I don't even live in the US. I'm not JAQing off--I actually want to know, but I have yet to hear one concrete example of what this transition would look like.

[-] Judge_Jury@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Well I'm normally having the conversation with US conservatives in the context of responding to them moralizing against a non-US country or a domestic minority, and I'm normally doing it to get them to shut up and feel weird about it. Those conversations are framed in terms of morality for that reason, so what that looks like is the dissolution of every nation whose legal legitimacy depends on the doctrine of Christian discovery

But I frame those conversations morally because our present is so starkly different from any idea of how things ought to be, except for a liberal one. This makes liberals, including conservatives, easy to disorient for a few minutes by disrupting their feeling that things are more or less as they should be

Since you're actually asking, though, I don't know much about decolonial theory. I'm just a white southern-US baby leftist. The best I can do is point you toward Fanon for an examination of colonialism's structure and phenomena

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