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[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 18 points 9 months ago (3 children)

They admitted to killing babies, and they were proven to have boiled peasants alive.

People have put two and two together, but there’s no concrete proof of boiling babies IIRC. However, the other two are damning enough without combining them

[–] Carguacountii@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Do you have the source for those admissions and that proof by any chance? The ones I could find weren't very good.

Of course, many revolutions involve the death of children, and peasants. Obviously not a good thing, but the successful ones get upheld regardless - damned sometimes in part but not in whole.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Are the death of those children and peasants purposeful and done in cold-blooded executions? Are they added to the death count and bragged about unapologetically by the leader of the movement, saying they were "annihilated" there to "teach the enemies a lesson"?

Yes peasants and children die in wars and revolutions. But if the Red Army committed such a crime as executing a village full of peasants as collective punishment Lenin would have had them shot not bragged about it

[–] Carguacountii@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

Its difficult to find a good source, isn't it?

I don't really believe the claims made by Israel about Oct 7th either. Of course, clearly at least some 'innocents' did die in crossfire on that day. I also find it difficult to believe, on the basis of testimony alone, the claims from both sides that during the Nakba and also during the recent uprising, that children were cooked in ovens. Obviously (some few) people are capable of doing such things, but its also a very good lie to tell because it causes instinctive outrage and disgust that prevent people from investigating further - blood libel is a very old and common tactic, because it works.

I think the leader of the movement doesn't/didn't accept the tale we've been told by the Liberal settler colonial government, and by US agencies, about what happened. I don't think he was stupid, whatever else he was, and it would be a stupid thing to brag about if it happened as alleged.