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The “best” part about the “Hitler hypnotized us” narrative promoted by the krauts in their bloviating, soporific lectures is how it presents a completely counterfactual history devoid of the violent opposition to and clashes with fascists that characterized the Weimar Republic, all in order to pretend grandpappy didn’t deserve to be blown to a million pieces because everyone supported the Nazis and nobody knew right from wrong and morality wasn’t invented until 1945. Once upon a time I thought maybe there was some element of sincerity in German repentance culture, but no - it’s all self-serving, self-absorbed, self-flattering, self-interested, self- this and that; self-centered hagiographic self-praise that treats their unspeakable crimes as elite status cards to trot out.

These fucking krauts just can’t shut the fuck up about how they have some specialized knowledge of fascism because they’re krauts. Were you there? Were you around during the Nazi era? No? Then I fail to see how you know anything more or have any more expertise on the matter than Joe Pissmonger from Montana. Maybe if you picked up a fucking book sometime instead of insisting that being a kraut gives you special privilege to speak with no prior investigation.

But apparently Teutonic blood gives you divine insight into how fascism works. Looks like they haven’t moved past their Nazi genetic woo after all.

“I’m a German and I’m here to teach you how to avoid fascism by supporting the status quo” how about you deal with your own rapidly Nazifying shithole American province before lecturing others.

Be grateful the very idea of “Germany” wasn’t razed to the ground and scattered to the wind after your dear leader escorted himself off the premises.

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[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 52 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (11 children)

I find it fascinating that the Marshall-plan here is blatantly sold as the US wanting to expand their market. That's what I was told as a selling point for the Marshall-plan, that one of the reasons for WW2 was because the germans were very angry after being poor because of the reparations of WW1. But the US being smart recognized that it was better to placate the germans with treats and have a greater market than to rip out all the machinery and leave us poor. Like what the soviets did, because they obviously weren't as smart or whatever. Like genuinely that's what I was told.

Even as a teen I recognized that that line is bullshit at best. What kind of flex is "The US were smart to give us treats and keep us as vasalls or else we might have done another holocaust"????? How can you tell on yourself like this, how stupid are our "educators"???????

[–] MechanizedPossum@hexbear.net 31 points 9 months ago (6 children)

When you tell capitalists that facism is the most brutal and chauvinist elements of the bourgeoisie trying to uphold capitalism in crisis by open violence, their only suggestion for effective antifascim is stonks-up

[–] Sephitard9001@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Being told that fascism is capitalism's defense mechanism would just make them go "Then I guess you better work harder to make line go up my little paypiggy"

[–] MechanizedPossum@hexbear.net 6 points 9 months ago

That's actually what they do. Or they blame the unemployed for being too boorish and uneducated and voting nazi (even though the main target demographic for both historical and contemporary fascists in Germany are petit bourgeoise and class collaborationist workers scared of losing wealth and status).

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