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[-] blashork@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago

user reports: Seems kinda orientalist ngl

I think I'm gonna remove this

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 4 points 6 months ago

Here's a question, how can an oriental be orientalist.

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago

Do you really need it explained to you how being part of a group does not preclude one from being prejudiced or biased against that group, or from perpetuating harmful attitudes about it? It's not like discussions of things like self-fetishization or self-hatred are new to "oriental" communities, "self-orientalism" is literally already a widely used term with nearly four million results on Google.

Hell, you literally struck through the words "probably in Japan" in the removed comment, that's basically the Internet equivalent of "I'm just saying what we're all thinking" — so I'm sure you already know on some level that "weird Japan" articles showing off things like used schoolgirl panty vending machines are basically just written for westerners to gawk at how "bizarre, hypersexual and loose in morals" their platonic ideal of the "far east" is.

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago

Go ahead and please explain to the Korean how they're orientalist from a white person's perspective

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 1 points 6 months ago

Well, I'm not going to talk if you don't want to listen, so maybe you want to schedule a tribunal with a jury of your peers first... [pops some Vicodin sassy style] [grabs a superfluous cane and gets up] [goes to leave the room] [walks right into the glass door] [opens the door] [leaves the room] [closes the door behind self] [walks off into the distance while rubbing forehead]

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago

so maybe you want to schedule a tribunal with a jury of your peers first

You're in for a bad time because my Korean peers are going to make my remarks seem as good natured as the Scots making fun of Welsh in comparison to the wild shit they'll say about the Japanese

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago

[from the distance] ^It^ ^would^ ^seem^ ^so!^


So I take it you're actually from Korea rather than in the Korean diaspora? I was honestly kinda figuring that from the start before you even said you were Korean at all, but I'd just like to confirm.

I would genuinely like to discuss topics like nationality and so forth with you some time, I hope this hasn't caused any sort of lasting animosity despite disagreements and differing perspectives.

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago

Korean diaspora, lived in korea multiple times - just under the legal time limits before the paperwork bureaucratic bullshit that the u.s shovels on you for extended stays outside the u.s every time - my entire life so I've seen the transformation of Seoul from an industrialized city with colonial occupation era remnants into an international metropolis, would've been a dual citizen but wasn't for reasons I won't disclose, etc.

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago

Very interesting. So what's that bureaucratic BS you mention? Just stuff like taxes, absentee ballots, passports, that sort of thing? That's all I've ever really heard my own mom complain about.

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago

Taxes, federal and state social services eligibility, and some financial audit shit when I got old enough to do my own paperwork

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