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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 204 points 3 months ago (8 children)

I feel like you’re an asshole if you buy a 22 foot long pickup to take to IKEA.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 233 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (11 children)

I don't see it that way. Long vehicles at IKEA, Lowe's, hell even Michael's -- I don't care. Their parking lots are built for that. And the stuff they get.

Long vehicles in a fucking Trader Joes, definitely asshole material.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 145 points 3 months ago (5 children)

It really depends on WHERE you park if you are going to park this way. Parking it in the boonies, way way out at the end of the parking lot? Saintly.

Parking it as close to the entrance as possible? Dungeon. 1000 years dungeon.

But generally I agree. This is the purpose of a truck. To haul heavy items that would not fit in a standard or small vehicle. But don't buy a fucking truck for status or for your office job.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

How about backing up the truck bed into the entrance doors, so when you get done, you just load it straight into the back of your truck, THEN exit the building, and drive off?

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago

Launched into the sun.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ikea does have loading zones for this purpose.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Typically you don't PARK in a loading zone.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the red zone.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue.

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[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, God forbid he wants to actually take stuff home.

That said, if you've got a huge truck (and I live in the country and work blue collar so I get it, sometimes you need one), have a small car too. Trucks aren't cheap, you can afford a Civic for the city.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I’m sure lots of people have stories about getting huge loads home from IKEA in a tiny car.

I once got two 10’ tall wardrobes and a matching dresser home in a Volkswagen.

[–] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 10 points 3 months ago

You’d be amazed what I can get in the back of my 2008 Mini.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

I am this person. Packing half a house of furnishings into a Mitsubishi Mirage and then driving like 90 miles back to my house.

[–] IamAnonymous@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

I have transported a 7 foot long TV entertainment stand from ikea in my Mustang.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

When I bought my Miata, it came with a small utility trailer. I've used that trailer to transport home an 8' tall, 4' wide, solid wood pantry cabinet -- not flat-pack; a custom-built, very heavy antique. Now, I'm sad to say I didn't actually use the Miata to tow it in that instance (I think I used my old 4Runner instead), but the point is I could have, and it would've worked.

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

For shopping at Trader Joe's while they're trying to dissolve the NLRB, yes, also the truck thing

[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

What happened to them? I remember back in the day, they were the place where employees from other unionized supermarkets aspired to work, and when they got there, they were happy as clams and in it for the long haul.

[–] Crismus@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

They got bought out, so they no longer have the same ethics.

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[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

IKEA started as a furniture shipping company (thus the flat packages and the warehouse aesthetic) and many furniture companies like IKEA still ship to your doorstep or beyond often for a similar or better price compared to what individual transport costs.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

there is also value in seeing and testing a variety of products in person.

[–] grozzle@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago (3 children)

yes, the sane way to buy furniture from Ikea is to visit the showroom to look at everything in-person, and then give them your address for delivery of anything very large.

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[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 months ago

Bad faith: "Are you really transporting those products back and forth to test?"

~~Good~~ Better faith: Seeing and testing furniture doesn't imply not using shipping.

Speculation: For many, use value of products seem less important compared to short-term novelty value, i.e. owning over using. Celebrating ownership might require immediate access regardless of location, showing ability to HAUL the products then displays further power.

[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago

But they're not only driving to Ikea. They're on our roads and streets and pedestrians and cyclists.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago

You think this is just his ikea vehicle?

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[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 44 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Please explain how taking a large vehicle to a furniture store makes you an asshole.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 42 points 3 months ago (4 children)
[–] jonne@infosec.pub 20 points 3 months ago

Good to see JD Vance take this girls for a ride.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Fantastic. I couldn't make out what was in between the couches at first and then realized it's a crt/plasma big screen that probably weighs 400lbs. The couches are held at the bottom though by one rope so looks good. Can't imagine anything going wrong.

Good old Louisiana

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you have a 22 foot long truck, you should understand that normal infrastructure is not built for you. Either park way at the back of the lot where you’re not inconveniencing people, or on the street.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No one said this guy wasn't parked at the back of the lot.

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[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

Ikeas have super large parking spots, they have parking spots for big vehicles and buses. If your car can't fit there, you bought the biggest asshole car in the universe

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Because its too long to park without sticking out into traffic?

Like I don't care what you're using it for, if you cannot park it properly, then don't take buy it or at least don't take it with you.

Most vans and pickups aren't even that long so it's not even as if it's necessitates being that long either.

[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I don't think ikea even sells furniture that requires such gigantic vehicles in the first place.

That said, furniture is an excellent example of why you could just drive a normal vehicle, a bicycle or a bus to go windowshopping and later have the new furniture delivered to your doorstep by a specialised company and/or vehicle or rent a specialised vehicle for the odd occasion. The cost for society will actually be a damn lot lower.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 months ago

Dodge ram.

Statistically speaking they also have a DUI.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

You think taking a large bedded vehicle to a furniture store is asshole behavior? Well shit, I hope I can fit this entire bedroom set in my car... 🤦‍♂️

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If it's from Ikea, I can probably fit an entire bedroom worth of furniture into my two door Honda civic.

Everything they make is flat packed, and you have to assemble it into it's 3D form after purchase.

I can stack so many of those Ikea items in my tiny shitbox.

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[–] grozzle@lemm.ee 9 points 3 months ago

you know they deliver, right?

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And before anyone says the Vito isn't available in the US - it is, it's just called the Metris. And if you get the passenger variant, you can get 8 people in there.

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[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So you volunteer to be behind him on the freeway as he brings home an entertainment center, a quadruple order of meatballs, and a set of bunk beds piled out the back of his Honda Civic? Ikea is one of the most logical places to drive the big truck.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You can fit that in a normal pickup. I don’t think IKEA sells anything that requires a 22 foot long pickup. Also, who buys entertainment centers and bunk beds on the reg?

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[–] twinnie@feddit.uk 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If you’re going to buy furniture surely you’d need something bigger if you want to take it home yourself?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (8 children)

It's Ikea, king of the flat-pack. You could fit literally an entire room's worth of Ikea furniture in a subcompact hatchback, depending on which pieces you buy.

(Okay so that's on top of a tiny car, not in it, but you get the idea.)

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

I’ve bought tons of furniture and had no problem at all with my 16 foot long truck that fits in one parking space. I don’t think IKEA sells anything that wouldn’t fit in my truck.

[–] Acrimonious@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Is there such a thing as a 22ft long truck? I sure as fuck hope not and now I'm afraid to look it up. My guess is they were towing a trailer.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Dodge Ram can be 21’+

It also implies, statistically speaking, they have a DUI.

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