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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by Walk_On@hexbear.net to c/chat@hexbear.net

[I originally posted this in chapotraphouse, but it was deleted for being “pro-cop” even though that very much wasn’t the case. (I believe PSL was actually involved in organizing the protest if I’m not mistaken.) The mod that deleted it openly broke the sectarian rule too.]

Been seeing a lot of people hating on what the protest marshals did during the pro-Gaza protests at the DNC and I feel they definitely did the right thing. Instigating stuff like going up against the cops under the guise of “revolutionary” action just gets a lot of people arrested and doesn’t accomplish anything.

EDIT: Users who were present at the protests have said, counter to what is claimed in the screenshot, that the protest marshals did NOT call for the police. Thank you for clearing this up, comrades!

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[-] Sulvor@hexbear.net 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I feel like both your positions are valid and this discourse is as old as time, but this person on twitter is making the optics argument.

The optics are there’s a fucking ongoing genocide and we’re causing it. People have the right to do whatever they think will stop it. There’s no right way to protest.

[-] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

The only right way to protest is the effective way

[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

So not a peaceful march that doesn’t even get that close to the convention?

[-] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago

Effectiveness of protest can only really be judged after the protest. One constant is that the less disruptive a protest is, the less effective it is though.

Non-violent protest isn't necessarily undisruptive, but "peaceful" protest where you avoid disrupting anything is fruitless. It's only really effective when your sole goal is to build awareness and your organization can't take the hit of a large portion of it's membership being arrested or detained.

Once a movement has grown past the need for awareness, it needs to begin engaging in only disruptive forms of protest. A combination of violent and non-violent depending on the circumstance.

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