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I know there was some schism and moving of instances, but beyond that I can’t deduce what happened/is happening.

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[–] ModeratorCan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

This post isn't really broad enough for the intent of the creator(s) of this community (not me) but I'm not one to remove a post that already has active discussion.

That said:

I'll look through but I'm generally here as more an extra set of eyes for the most egregious content, rather than to be deciphering through individual threads. Locking is an option I may have to use and tbh someone else here may still lock or remove it.

I get this is a contentious topic. I don't want to stifle discussion. I prefer to mod passively. I volunteered here because no one else was and I'm already clearly active enough.

[–] DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world 18 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The mod team tried to move everything to .world. No one liked that and now there's !196@lemmy.blahaj.zone !196@lemmy.world and !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone the top two are run by the old mod team, the last one is ran by a new mod team. Blahaj zone and onehundresninetysix are active. (Rip 196.world, gone and certainly forgotten.) The mod team and admin had a drama over heavy handed admin over reach on bans in 196blahaj.

[–] SoftTeeth@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Half the community liked it, it was just the half that was banned for dissent

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 173 points 12 hours ago (17 children)

Back in December, the instance hosting 196 (lemmy.blahaj.zone) announced that, as part of its mission as a trans-friendly space, harassment based on gender or neopronouns would remain prohibited—even if the user in question was suspected of being a troll. Users were asked to disengage, block, and report suspected trolling behavior rather than bring harassment into a community already vulnerable to that kind of bullying.

There was a small backlash to the policy from some users. This led to a number of “toe the line” posts that weren’t outright gender-based harassment but strongly signaled an intent to misgender or harass in the future. Blahaj admins promptly removed all offending comments during this wave of dissent.

Important to note: The majority of the Blahaj and 196 users supported the policy, upvoting and praising the admins for creating a safe space for trans individuals.

By January, the backlash had mostly subsided, and the trolls causing issues had moved on. However, 196 moderator @moss and their team remained unhappy with the policy. They cited “personal differences” and felt Blahaj admins had overstepped by removing comments themselves rather than allowing 196 mods to address users who openly expressed intent to harass others.

Yesterday, @moss and the 196 moderation team enacted a major decision without consulting the community. They locked !196@lemmy.blahaj.zone and instructed users to move to !196@lemmy.world.

This move was extremely unpopular. Many users strongly dislike lemmy.world for various reasons (a complicated topic better unpacked elsewhere). The announcement post was met with widespread backlash, and @moss eventually locked it. In response, a few users created a new community on Blahaj: !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone. The new community quickly grew in size and activity, with most users opting to stay on Blahaj rather than migrate to lemmy.world.

It’s clear @moss and the 196 moderators underestimated the community’s attachment to its home on Blahaj. By attempting to uproot the group without input, they alienated much of the community. As a result, most users have moved to the new Blahaj-hosted community, which has already become the more active space.

TL;DR:
@Moss and the 196 mod team tried to move the community to lemmy.world without consulting anyone. The decision was extremely unpopular, leading to backlash and the creation of a new Blahaj-hosted community that most users now prefer.

[–] other_cat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Fantastic write up. Reminds me of a post on Hobby Drama.

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 24 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Oof. Rookie mistake. Even if people aren't against a move most people won't follow you to the new site simply because of laziness. It kills communities.

There really should be a life shattering reason to move a community to a new site.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 14 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Yup. Clearly, “the admin is going to generally protect trans identities on her instance” didn’t ring as “life shattering” to too many. 😸

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 60 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

This comment would probably make for a good crosspost to !fediverselore@lemmy.ca

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[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 50 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (4 children)

Great write-up, thanks. I love a good shit-show. 🍿

Sounds to me like the OG mods could have said “we don’t like how the admin runs things here, we are leaving as mods and starting a new 196 on .world with hookers and blackjack, you guys do what you want here.”

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 16 points 9 hours ago

Which everyone would think is fine, but that would mean they'd be mods of an empty community, and thus have no power, and that of course made them upset.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 31 points 12 hours ago

I genuinely would have had no problem with that, and I think most others would agree with me.

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[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 17 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

They stated pretty directly it wasn't about the Dragonfucker incident, nor did it involve policies on neopronouns. Drag wasn't even banned for anything to do with neopronouns.

I think the move to lemmy.world was a mistake, but I believe them when they say it has nothing to do with the neopronouns policy.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 19 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

Yeah I think the above comment is inappropriately tying the issue to a topic they specifically said wasn't the motivation

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[–] Alchalide@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Onehundrednightysix is stupid. You should have just named it oneninesix

[–] Toes@ani.social 8 points 8 hours ago
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