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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 37 minutes ago* (last edited 37 minutes ago)

Why didn't I hear about this until the day of?

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 hour ago

Blasted out on my dead social media accounts. Except shitter, which I actually deleted lol

[–] teri@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 4 hours ago (5 children)

I support the cause in general but: Signal is not federated at all. It may seem like a decent alternative to WhatsApp but is it really? It still falls under the same US jurisdiction. Let's say the US gov starts agressively prosecuting dissidents and certain minorities (they already do): can and should we still use signal in this case? I don't think so. Sadly i can't name a much better alternative. Maybe matrix. But it has other issues.

[–] Bazoogle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Signal is open source. They absolutely do always comply with US warrants. They have never provided any information to US law enforcement, because they can't access it. They literally have no way of accessing the information contained inside the texts. The most they could provide is metadata, but they currently aren't collecting that. I also think if they started, it would not work well for their user base. You can see all their requests for information, and the responses they gave, here: https://signal.org/bigbrother/

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Is Threema still a good option? Anyone know? I know it's not a fediverse instance just a secure messaging platform. On that note though, can any federated platform really be used as secure messaging? Or is it too open?

[–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

Let’s say the US gov starts agressively prosecuting dissidents and certain minorities (they already do): can and should we still use signal in this case?

Definitely no. Russian government already is aggressively prosecuting dissidents and you can't join Signal there. I don't know whether it's due to sanctions or if the government is blocking 2FA SMS messages. In either case, it is impossible to join without a phone number confirmation. At least I wasn't able to. I don't see the USA being that far off with all the recent TikTok drama.

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