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Luigi Mangione

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[–] singletona@lemmy.world 248 points 1 week ago (2 children)

oh I absolutely believe the allegation as plausible.

They NEEDED a fall guy for this and they NEEDED it to be so cut and dry that they could quickly make an example of him.

Even if Luigi DID do it? This is railroading for the sake of trying to scare everyone else to stay in place.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 134 points 1 week ago (10 children)

That's the thing... Everyone is acting like this guy totally do it.

From the start I had my doubts. Something felt off.

The only thing I know is that the government needs somebody to go to prison over this. They don't care who though. This is the culture of law enforcement, so not even specific to Luigi's case.

So we have to believe that they found this dude in fucking McDonald's with everything on him to get a conviction?!

But people are buying it... Sure he has support but they also believe that he is a the guy who committed the crime. And I am just not convinced.

Government behaviour around this case is suspect.

[–] singletona@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Feels too... Tidy really. Too much like something out of a movie. High profile murder. Killer found. Killer has clear motive and everything is found on or near the guy. Suspect makes statements that sound like something Killer would say in that position.

A line from the Running man comes to mind.

'Once again proving Might and Right are one and the same!'

In reference to a fake staged fight where State Sponsored Execution Reality TV kills a stunt double digitally made to look like the fugitive of the moment that has been making a mockery of The System. very neat. very tidy. Also, very Bullshit.

Edit: For the sake of records. I do believe he did it. I just find it too... tidy that everything was on hand to immediately bring a trial rather than months of legwork to ensure an air tight case.

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[–] jonne@infosec.pub 22 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Imagine if it's actually not him, and the real guy was able to get away because nobody's looking any more.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That would be hilarious if he gets convicted and the next day another shooting happens with the same guy on camera again.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

he is-a the guy

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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (9 children)

How would it benefit the rich to have the real killer running lose while a random guy goes to jail??

This is the weirdest conspiracy so far.

It’s him, he did it, and praise him for doing it, he’s a legend. Neither he or his lawyers are denying it.

It’s super weird that people on the Internet are insisting it isn’t him

[–] singletona@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh I ABSOLUTELY am of the belief that it is him. However, I find it strange that so much proof was supposedly found on him to the point that he might as well have been standing in time's square shouting that he did it. There was no need to backtrace through his history, go through his home, interview friends or family. It was all There.

That is what strikes me as ... too convenient.

They don't want to go to the trouble of having this long drawn out process. They want thier gunman handed on a silver platter both to please the corporate overlords, and to show that they are competent.

...when they are anything but.

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[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 161 points 1 week ago (5 children)

How insane would it be if he got off due to a technicality. Not holding my breath, but here's hoping.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 86 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not really that insane. Cops are mostly useless and fuck shit up all the time.

[–] Tm12@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Mostly. Have a look at this chart to see their real impact.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago
[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Alec Baldwin got off because of screw-ups like this. Seems like when there's a high profile case, all the big shots who normally don't do any work all want to jump in and be involved. And then make stupid mistakes because they don't have any real experience because they're normally too important to work a case.

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[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

On the flip side, if they illegally discover evidence but can prove an alternative, legal, way it could be discovered it becomes admissible. That's sometimes why they do it.

[–] SlothMama@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It has a word too, something like Alternative Reconstruction. I used to know the term.

"parallel construction" or "evidence laundering"

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Civil rights aren't a technicality. If he 'got off' it would be a victory for everyone who enjoys not being harassed by police.

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[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 149 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (21 children)

Really appears like they planted a backpack full of evidence on this innocent person, cops were desperate for a win

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 83 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Then botched his 4th Amendment rights and will likely get away with it becuase government needs him in prison for this to make the parasite class happy

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Republican judges have been itching to do away with the exclusionary rule. It's not written into the Constitution.

The 4th prohibits unlawful search and seizure but doesn't specify a remedy. The exceptions practically swallow the rule as it is now; attenuation of the taint, good faith, public safety, independent source, inevitable discovery, to name a few.

[–] Webster@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As a non lawyer reading that list of exceptions, it sounds like it will be easy for the prosecutors to get a few to apply?

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[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 109 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

The IMPORTANT thing is to KEEP using RANDOM ass UPPERCASE in CLICKBAIT title SENTENCES. That is NOT at ALL irritating.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

SPEAK UP BROTHER, I ONLY HEARD HALF OF WHAT YOU SAID!

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)
[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Ragallos@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The most important part is to use MEANINGLESS HYPERBOLE like SLAMMED and EXPLOSIVE

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh SHIT, his lawyer EXPLODED? With all the FEDERAL CUTS to staffing I WONDER, did they still have A JANITOR to clean her GUTS OFF THE WALLS?

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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 83 points 1 week ago (3 children)

There is zero chance any judge going to exclude the conviction starter package the "police found on him"

You don't go through all of that parallel construction to have it gutted like that.

Trust me bro a guy who shot the parasite CEO decided to carry all of the evidence needed for conviction on him for 5 days 🤡

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] CarbonBasedNPU@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The longer the case goes on the less convinced I am that he was actually the killer. It feels like there's a new "weird" thing about the case every week.

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[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It's not entirely out of the question, but it does require considerable evidence. It's possible that he carried it so that it wouldn't be left somewhere as evidence, until he could get somewhere that he could safely destroy it.

That said, there are some pretty gaping holes with that explanation that would need to be filled first.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Any number of thousands of dumpsters between NY and PA would have worked fine.

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Remember the eye brows on the photos. That is not Luigi in the photos!

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[–] meowmeowbeanz@sopuli.xyz 44 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Police misconduct allegations could unravel this case—constitutional rights aren't optional.

😺😺😺

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago

They most definitely are

Continuing to pray for the Louisiana Supreme Court to all get lung cancer

[–] Zink@programming.dev 11 points 1 week ago

BREAKING: We have an unexpected ruling from the United States Supreme Court today. In a 6-3 decision they have ruled... wait this is really it? They have ruled "Hold My Beer."

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

Please be true

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Everyday police overreaching actually is a benefit for a change. Cool.

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