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They’re not going to learn until they’re charged and convicted of homicide.
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To be honest. They not going to learn until we address the people who enable her. The useful idiots, the ones who promote her for their own gains. Psy ops.
Thought the bitch was pro life? This seems quite anti-life to me.
Thought the bitch was pro life?
That's a question? No, I didn't. Thanks for asking.
I was a kid when they were first developing the vaccines for measles, mumps, and rubella (we called it German measles). So my brothers and I all got every one of them. I remember being sick with them, and with one of the measles types (don't remember which) I was so sick I though I was gonna die. I'll never forget lying there, even thinking of certain things made me puke (or dry heave) so I had to concentrate on not thinking of anything. I remember puking so hard it came out my nose. One of my brothers was so sick, his fever was so high, they took him to the hospital.
Do parents really want to put their children through this instead of a shot? WTF
should be child abuse
Just some of the ones that were vaccinated against measles.
Jesus Christ she is a fucking moron
I spent SO MUCH TIME during my pediatrics clinical rotation explaining vaccines to new parents. In some cases, I sat there for a literal hour and debunked myths and conspiracy theories in order to get the parents to consider maybe doing a delayed vaccination schedule. I'm a medical student, so my time is basically worthless and I viewed this as a good use of it, but it was so incredibly frustrating to have to do over and over.
For other folks who know anti-vax parents (new or not), here's the best line of argument I came up with:
Vaccines have been around for a very long time now, and the only changes we've made to them recently is to make them better and safer. The preservatives in them like the mercury compound are perfectly safe, but we've still worked hard to improve the manufacturing process to minimize the need for those preservatives and make the vaccines as pure as possible.
Vaccines are made of little fragments of the virus or bacteria, or a modified, significantly weaker version of the pathogen to give your child's immune system a chance to see it before the real thing shows up. It's like giving your child's immune system a wanted poster or a punching bag to practice on because it has to make special tools to fight each different pathogen.
The reason we load kids up with so many vaccines in the first year or two of life is because their immune systems are still growing and it's an optimal time to introduce things for it to prepare for, and we want to give them some protection of their own before the antibodies from mom run out around 6 to 12 months of life.
We have decades of data showing that vaccines are safe and effective, and the complications and side effects are so minor compared to the problems that can come from the disease. And it's usually around 1000:1 ratio of complications from the disease versus complications from the vaccine, and the vaccine complications are almost always less severe than the complications from the disease.
If you refuse vaccination for your child for reasons besides an anaphylactic allergy to the ingredients, you are gambling your child's life with most of these diseases, and it would have been an entirely preventable death. Vaccines are very hard to make and we have prioritized making vaccines for the diseases that kill children. We don't bother making vaccines for things that are just a nuisance, so the vaccines we have exist for very good reasons. For the most famous example, measles has about 5 different ways it can kill your child that are impossible to treat or prevent once they have it, and many ways to cause permanent damage. The known and most common side effects of the measles vaccine are pretty mild and can be easily treated with medications we have available.
Another worth noting is if an antivaxxer says "we don't know what they put into vaccines", respond with "we don't know what they put in painkillers and yet you take them no problem". Nine times out of ten, these antivaxxers would take painkillers willy nilly without question. Saying this makes them question their line of thought. Heck, the same could be said just about anything. We don't know what cooks in restaurants put into the food we ordered, and yet there is no significant movement advocating to stop ordering takeaways or eating outside of home.
The sad thing about debunking is that you need to have direct contact with the person under a delusion to build rapport and need to be quite knowledgeable about the topic, but planting the the delusion can be done at a large scale by any eloquent doofus with time to spare. It's so frustrating.
It is always harder to build than to destroy.
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We had our cats in for their annual checkups a few years back, and the vet noted they were due for their vaccinations. The way she said it, we could hear she was bracing for an argument. I wonder if someone had laid into her about it earlier that day.
We, of course, had the vaccinations done, much to her relief.
bet she won't be censured for "decorum violations".
Grab her and plop her down in the middle of one the hotspots and don't let her out
Just had a thought. What if we took a insignificant amount of the virus and injected it into people. This would allow them to develop antibodies so that if they do become exposed they are ready to fight it.
Probably safer then just exposing people to the virus. Could also do it to enough people that it virtually eradicates the virus.
Just an idea. We would also have to do a bunch of testing and have a bunch of regulations around it. Just to prove there isn't any unwarranted side effects.
If something like that worked, scientists would have done it by now.
Youre right. Sorry. I'm so dumb.
Ben Franklin was anti-vax, but came around. Also these fuckwits are so dumb that they don't know vaccines have been around throughout when America was "great" and way beyond.
In his defense, in 1721 vaccines were really a new unproven technology. And if you don't know it works, or even what causes diseases in the first place, it's reasonable to be skeptical. It's also reasonable to change your mind when you see it does really work.
I have a better idea. What if we take the genetic code of the virus, inject it into people and have their own bodies produce many more virus particles so they get a stronger and more targeted immune response? Who knows, someone could win an important prize for that.
I read this comment and became autistic. Becareful people science makes you spicy.
I don't know if I should laugh or cry. What a timeline to be in right now.
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I fully agree, i think all trump voters should go to measles parties.
Their kids shouldn't suffer though
Pro Life only until it's born, then fuck that Life
They aren't pro-life. They are forced birth. It isn't about the baby, it's about power over women.
Measles isn't fucking chicken pox…
Don’t even take chicken pox lightly. It gives you shingles later in life. I have epilepsy as a result of getting chicken pox.
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The future seems not that bad now that I know we won't be seeing an entire generation of Republicans
We've been thinking that for three generations and somehow they're still here
Margerine Taylor Greene can go fuck herself!
Excuse me, you misspelled Margarine Trailer Queen.
Traitor
FTFY. She's shown more colors than trailer trash.
Good call.
Sorry for the kids, but I have simply given up to care about the members of this suicide cult.
As a former child (read: captive) of ultra conservative christian fuckwits, I implore you to try to care. It’s not those kids’ fault they have shitty stupid parents.
I do care and feel sorry for the kids, but I cannot change their parents.
I will always vote and support laws that allow children access to proven medical treatments without the permission from the parents.
Nurgle cultist. May measles spread and give new life from the dead and rotten.
“Now, they demonize parents who refuse to vaccinate their kids.”
It's pretty normal to demonize parents who abuse children.
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