I already knew that gamers hate unions and pretty much anything that prevents their slop from being crunched out, but Genshin fans apparently have taken that to 11.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Gacha fans asking for more gambling and grinding are the worst.

[–] AntifaSuperWombat@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In this case, they’re asking for the English dub, because the voice actors are striking.

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago

the most horrific thing you can do to a G#mer, excluding making the titties smaller and more gay, is delaying the treats. Their treatlerite brainpan can barely comprehend one thought let alone two.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 36 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

God, can these fucks go ten seconds without trying to be condescending smuglords?

[–] Gucci_Minh@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

We gotta consider that on the internet, we could at any moment be talking to a 12 year old (or worse, a liberal), and they love trying to sound smart.

[–] 3rdWorldCommieCat@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's like asking them to go the rest of their lives without breathing.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Technically anyone can go the rest of their life without breathing thinkin-lenin

[–] 3rdWorldCommieCat@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago

Thats is true lmao

[–] OldSoulHippie@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I hate when people type out feigned dumbness. Especially after using big reddit words

[–] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

Actual stupidity feigning intelligence that's feigning stupidity. If you call them an idiot, they'll claim their sarcasm was too advanced for you to comprehend

[+] crt0o@lemm.ee -6 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

I feel like people idealize unions. Most people I know aren't in one because of the massive membership fees. I've also heard of weird shady shit like a teachers' union forbidding the teachers at my local school from discussing the election of a principal. Unions should help workers not limit them.

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 41 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Please never take a "I heard X about this union" at face value. Obviously sometimes unions will on occasion do bad things, but I cannot stress how extremely common it is for employers to deliberately spread lies about unions. I have personally seen full-page ads in newspapers with bald-faced lies about the stance or actions of unions.

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

nothing dumber or weaker than the power of one.

also: lmao at "massive fees".

imagine thinking the pay and compensation improvements from collective bargaining for each individual worker would ever be less than the union fees. go buy a PlayStation about it

management and shareholders must work so hard to make people think like you in captive audience meetings and retaliation harassment campaigns because the bosses have your interests at heart.

swear to god, if I've noticed anything about people in places with strong unions and functioning social democratic infrastructure is that they can be naive as fuck about how everything good they take for granted would vanish like a fart in the wind if the bosses had slightly more power than they do.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 23 points 2 weeks ago

swear to god, if I've noticed anything about people in places with strong unions and functioning social democratic infrastructure is that they can be naive as fuck about how everything good they take for granted would vanish like a fart in the wind if the bosses had slightly more power than they do.

yea

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 34 points 2 weeks ago

If unions were bad, the rich would never form unions of their own: they call them “their networks”.

Rich people almost instinctively come together to collaborate on how to minimize competition and just drive up prices to make sure the poor are the ones that pay for everything in the end. Monopolization, cartelization, and the classic good ol’ boy club are perfect examples.

[–] YellowJackets2TheParish@hexbear.net 32 points 2 weeks ago

Spoken like someone who's never been in a union before.

Personal anecdotes are not gospel. There are people who consider a single dollar as a union fee to be too much money, and hate unions on ideological grounds.

They are, generally speaking, net positives for a worker.

[–] OldSoulHippie@hexbear.net 32 points 2 weeks ago

.ee pannekoek-point

[–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You're literally idealizing unions. You just have an uninformed idea of what they are.

[–] crt0o@lemm.ee -1 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Well, I was just responding to the original post

Joining a union is always the most beneficial thing for a worker

It isn't if the membership is 30€ per month and the union isn't going to do jack shit for you because they're corrupt

[–] Thallo@hexbear.net 30 points 2 weeks ago

A lot of American unions are bad and just work as an extension of HR to subdue unrest on behalf of the business.

I've been in teachers unions, and, from my experience, they really go to bat for you if you're having an issue.

It's important to note, though, that the reason American unions are so bad is not a coincidence or cultural quirk. It's a direct result of policies that are meant to strangle unions.

Regardless of whether or not the unions have been neutered or captured, they are still the best type of organization to fight for worker rights. There's really no other option to stand up to wide-scaled exploitation.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It is if it costs 30 a month but you make 300 a month more than your non union peers. Find me a better investment opportunity than that. If I could turn 30 bucks into 300 bucks why wouldn't I? That's the biggest no brainer ever.

Folks who talk like this have literally never interacted with a union. If your union is taking your money and doing nothing in return, get rid of them. It's your union. You and your co workers can vote to decertify or find a new rep. Unions aren't chosen by the company they're chosen by the workers.

The stats are against you anyway. Around the world Union workers make more than non union workers. That's just facts even after dues.

[–] MarxusMaximus@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago

It isn't if the membership is 30€ per month and the union isn't going to do jack shit for you because they're corrupt

This is obviously correct but it's also like saying "eating is bad for you because I heard someone spent 30 bucks on rotten food and died." It's intellectually dishonest and I don't think you're dumb.

[–] starkillerfish@hexbear.net 24 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Unions aren’t supposed to do things "for you", you ARE the union

[–] curmudgeonthefrog@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

This times a million. Your union is not a third party, it's you and your coworkers. Union dues are the collective resources you and your coworkers put together to fight the boss and protect your rights. Its so the boss cant say "I changed my mind, here's what's happening now" because they will do that shit all the time even when you have a contract. You need a strike fund, a lawyer, a staff organizer to support and train you and no dues means none of these exist. Then your boss can do whatever cause "what are you gonna do about it"

[–] OldSoulHippie@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

Fucking treat brained Americans man. Someone else has to do all the work

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago

You're seriously complaining about 30€ a month?

[–] tocopherol@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

What kind of industry are these people in? Me and everyone I know have benefitted from unions, and the fees have been completely negligable compared to wages and the benefits gained.

[–] Dimmer06@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

American unions frequently do fucked up shit. I can't speak to the rest of the world but here most of them are quite bad. They do occasionally help working people so it's not for nothing but there's a reason they continue to bleed membership despite being quite popular.

Edit: to be clear I do support workers organizing. The big unions in the US just suck and oftentimes impede good organizing more than they help it

[–] Darth_Reagan@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Unionized workers make more than non-unionized workers almost as a rule, wages gains typically overshadow dues.

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We should be careful with this sort of partial truth. In my area, there is an industry where the non-union workers do make more than the union workers. This, of course, is because the company has to compete against the union wage and adds some more on top as a "pls don't unionize and make this worse" sort of counter-propaganda. It's worth it to them.

It is also because the local union for this industry is strangled by liberal leadership, which is elected by its disengaged membership.

I want to present this anecdote because I don't think this situation is uncommon, so when we simplify the situation down to somebody with anti-union brainworms we may end up looking foolish or just wrong to them.

[–] Darth_Reagan@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That is why I used the words almost and typically.

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

fair. I guess I didn't read closely my b

[–] Darth_Reagan@hexbear.net 1 points 2 weeks ago

No problem, your point is well made. There are always going to be outliers to almost any narrative no matter how truthful, and they should be acknowledged and even explained.

[–] Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Principals aren’t elected. Where ever you heard any of that is completely false as that’s fundamentally not how that position works

[–] crt0o@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Linking the relevant legislature for my area, article 53.a details the appointment process for a principal, basically they're elected by the school board.