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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 122 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

Ah yes. "Muted".

If you should be aware of anything, it should be that if you have an Internet connected microphone the only way to truly know it's muted is to remove it from power.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 55 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 days ago

Yep, was gonna post this.

Good luck, this hospital's IT department, good fucking luck.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Some of them have hardware switches

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

but that could simply be wired to an LED and nothing else

[–] wischi@programming.dev 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

By that logic these devices can have internal batteries too.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And ones without internet can have secret antennas

[–] trogon@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

These companies don't even have to go to that much trouble, since people seem to be just fine connecting everything to the internet willingly.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This. They don't give a shit about the tiny, infinitesimal percentage of people like me and my fellow privacy-conscious lemmings that understand what's going on, care about it, and refuse to participate.

[–] wizblizz@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is why regulations to reign in corporate bullshit exist, expecting the average person to have even the faintest idea why this is important isn't reasonable.

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The first-gen echo devices at least actually had a board that listened for the activation word only that then powered on the main device. It's why you couldn't name them whatever you wanted, but had to choose between "Echo", "Alexa", "Amazon", or "Computer."

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[–] greybeard@lemmy.one 6 points 3 days ago

I had a few Google Home devices, they had a switch to turn off the mic. I assume it was legit switch, because the thing literally yelled at you and had bright red lights any time you muted it. It literally said "The mic is turned off" every time it booted up in a voice that reminds me of a child tattling on their sibling.

[–] actionjbone@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago

Preferably, by throwing it out a 6th-floor window

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[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 105 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This sign implies they're fully aware of how unsafe it is to have a device like that. SO WHY THE FUCK DO THEY HAVE ONE?!

[–] pneumatron@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Oh they're so cool and convenient!!

/s but sadly not /s

I hate this place

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[–] silverlose@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

I guess it’s a tele-health thing? Otherwise yeah wtf

[–] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the"mute" feature, a.k.a. "I'm not listening, pinky promise! 😇."

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 7 points 2 days ago

Alexa, please unmute!

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"Please do not say 'Down with Big Brother' unless the Telescreen is 'turned off'"

🙄

Not even turned off... Just muted. Because that's the same thing as not listening.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 51 points 3 days ago

Please remember to unplug and throw the echo out of the building. Preferably into a woodchipper.

Pull the fuckin plug, holy shit. It’s not that hard.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 46 points 4 days ago

Only acceptable if their mute button is a hammer.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm not even surprised. All your info is being sent around by shady fax-to-email conversion companies using Chinese servers. Ask me how I know--we use them.

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 3 points 3 days ago

The US is so cooked

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I worked for a couple years at a residential school where a lot of the kids had significant medical issues (to the point part of our training was on HIPAA). Tons of kids had echo devices, and I spent a significant chunk of my time there trying to get anyone to take seriously the huge privacy risk those things posed.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Is it more of a risk than your cell phone?

[–] Civil_Liberty@lemm.ee 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

So very curious about the Ted Kaczynski photo in the background.

[–] miraclerandy@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (3 children)

His manifesto was all about technology controlling our lives. That’s my guess as to why that’s in there.

[–] Civil_Liberty@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

Yeah.. I feel kind of stupid now.

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It's a meme that people will add his photo to images of technology acting in ways that it shouldn't.

Another example:

[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Why is there a mugshot superimposed on this photo? It's just one of those psychological tests where most people don't see it because they expect the window to be reflecting something and they're just reading the sign?

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 43 points 3 days ago (4 children)

It's the mugshot of Ted Kaczynski, AKA the Unabomber, who was quite famous for having an extreme aversion to technology and how he perceived its role in the downfall of society.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You know shit's bad when you start to realize Ted had a few good points.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago

Uncle Ted had a lot of good points, he just went about expressing them uhhhhhh

VERY poorly

[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Makes sense. Thanks.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

This person manifestos

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[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 17 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I want such a voice thingy, but 100% local.

Homeassistant is making porgress with this idea, but it's a slow progress.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's how I feel about AI stuff too. Like, I'd love to "Ghibli-fi" my family like everyone else, but I'd prefer to run it locally rather than hand over family photos to one of these AI companies.

[–] OccultIconoclast@reddthat.com 3 points 3 days ago

Miyazaki says AI art is an insult to life itself

[–] Tower@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Same boat. Tools like this and Gemini make managing my ADHD sooooo much easier. Having a JARVIS-esque "AI personal assistant" would make a lot of my struggles less debilitating. I'd even be willing to pay, as long as the data stayed private.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Tools like this and Gemini make managing my ADHD sooooo much easier.

Can you elaborate on this?

[–] Tower@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

My working memory is terrible. If I don't write something down, it's likely forgotten. I've always tried to keep a pen and paper on me, to varying degrees of success. Now, instead I can "Hey Google, add x to my grocery list" and it'll add it to my shopping list in Keep, or "... Create a reminder/alarm/event for..." for reminders to empty the dishwasher in 45 minutes or remember that I just agreed to plans on Saturday.

I'm not a huge fan of Google anymore, but I still willingly use their services because the tradeoff is that beneficial to me.

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[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I think local voice to text algorithms have gotten pretty freaking accurate. You'd need a way to activate listen, send it over the router, then receive the output signal to an Arduino/Raspberry Pi to switch something on or off. I'm sure it's not terribly difficult to design, but I bet the subscription model is so lucrative no one with the know how would offer a local version.

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[–] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We had this policy at my last job, but not due to HIPAA. Any time "Alexa" came up in conversations, it was very common for peoples' devices to chime in, telling on them.

Granted, we were in tech, so we were very aware that these things aren't recording everything you say and sending the recordings off to motherbrain nor "spying", per se.

[–] hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I recall them being caught of being in the possession of recordings they shouldn’t have had.

On top of this the option of not sending recordings to the cloud is being removed just now - so they stopped pretending to respect your privacy.

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