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I identify differently depending on the context.

When around comrades, I will identify as a Marxist-Leninist, as this is the most precise definition of what I hold to. I generally don't use this other than around comrades because no one else has any idea of what it means.

If I'm around people who at least sort of know what Marxism is, I'll call myself a Marxist. But in my experience this is pretty rare. Or this is what I will default to around people who I know are leftist broadly. I feel like "Marxist" is accurate enough where getting into the details of M-L isn't really necessary.

But when I'm around most normies, I will identify as a socialist. I think it's accurate enough to convey to people who do not have a very developed political understanding what I hold to. "Socialist" at the same time conveys a commitment to radical change well beyond the current Republican/Democrat paradigm, while not, for example, putting my job in jeopardy if I call myself a socialist to co-workers.

So the obvious question is why I don't call myself a communist very often IRL, even though I am one. I have before and used it a bit interchangably with M-L among comrades, but I don't use it around people I don't know well and know they are down with it. What I have found with the people in my broader social circle is such a huge lack of political understanding that calling myself a communist only shuts people down. When it comes to Americans, I think it's easy to overestimate their political understanding. I used to think most Americans just think communism is when "everyone is equal". What I've found is worse than that: it's more like people just have this vague notion that "communism = evil". They have no idea what it's about other than decades of propaganda that just equates communism as the ideology of our enemies and those who want to destroy America. So to most Americans, a communist is just someone who is "very bad person" who wants to destroy America (I mean, death to Amerikkka of course, but it's so much more than that). My own parents just think that communism means atheism and can't explain it more than that.

I totally understand the idea that we shouldn't shy away from calling ourselves communists. We need to normalize the idea because communism specifically is what's needed to save the planet. But idk, at this time and place in the US it feels like trying to do this just closes more doors than it opens, at least with the politically ignorant (most people).

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[–] MohammedTheCommunistPalestinian@hexbear.net 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I am a communist ,I had classmates who were communists in school ,no one cared

I have comrades in university too, hell the taxi I go with to Uni with has a Che portrait lmao

Wallahi there are more communists in my city than there are in the entirety of the USA

So to most Americans, a communist is just someone who is "very bad person" who wants to destroy America

My Dad thinks the same but it is why he loves communism

[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 week ago

I generally don't. Labels are substitutes for thought.

If you tell people what you believe, then they have to deal with what you believe.

If you give them a label, they can and generally will stop engaging with you as an individual and will instrad focus entirely on whatever crude stereotype they have associated with that label inside their own brains.

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago

Yeah, context is important. I live in a pretty reactionary region, so I'm not likely to say it if I just somehow get into casual political chat with your average Joe here, but if I'm engaging with broad, non-sectarian leftist spaces, I do make clear that I'm a Marxist-Leninist. I find that it helps normalize acceptance of "tankies" and diminishes the hasty, misinformed, and deeply unserious "anti-tankie" rhetoric that gets blindly pushed around by many in mainstream leftist spaces. Also, I've seen people (many of whom are anti-cracker-aktions themselves) show their ignorance by saying that MLs are "mostly white" when these are the same people who'd cheer on the bpp. Deeply unserious, and it gives me an incentive to make the representation of Black Marxism very clear.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I just call myself a communist but beyond that I don't think it matters right now. Leftists of all types in the US are so scattered and powerless I don't find it useful to nitpick at theoretical differences. Identifying oneself more concretely would perhaps matter in a situation like pre-revolution Russia, where a bunch of different organized struggles were occuring with concrete differences in tactics.

But right now there are so few of us do we really have the time to make distinction between ourselves based on tactics that we may have in some hypothetical future? We have to start doing stuff right now and work with whoever we can. And I'll emphasize that we cannot work with organizations with explicitly bigoted views. Other than that I don't see a lot of daylight between American leftist orgs. Some swing more anarchist or some more Marxist but from organizing experience with both, it doesn't really matter much. It only says what kind of books they might read, or how many cops might try infiltrating.

But like even among apolitical people I refer to myself as a communist. I'll explain if they're curious but otherwise don't push it that much. I'm not ashamed and I don't really try to hide it. I already look super queer and alt so why try to put up any kind of Overton window respectability on top of that? I already look like a cultural enemy to respectable types. Among other leftists I don't put any labels on myself, just a communist and I'll try to help

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm a third way guy. I think we need to triangulate a position between Posada and Hoxha.

[–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

Ah yes, the Diefenbunkist.

[–] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago

On a related note, when I do talk politics with white folks in my area (generally reactionary), their first reaction is often confusion. Because I am a very Kevin-ass looking white boy, they just have a baseline assumption in their brains that I must be a reactionary like them.

[–] someone@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"I believe in democracy in the workplace."

[–] very_poggers_gay@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

Based on Wolff pilled wolff-shining

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

paraphrasing something I saw somewhere:

philosophically I'm an anarchist, so pragmatically I'm a communist, and currently I'm a socialist

I think this works pretty well based on the 'read the room' context to determine which one you might want to use. If you aren't feeling safe using socialist or anarchist, then leftist seems OK fall back.

[–] Tommasi@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago

I say communist unless I'm at work or something. I used to say socialist, but everyone just thinks that means capitalism with welfare characteristics here, and I can't deal with people thinking I'm a lib.

[–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I tell everyone I'm a communist, lmao

Death to ameriKKKa, death to piSSrael

[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

I am a loud and proud commie that fortunately lives in a safe enough place where i walk around daily with trans colored ☭☭☭ patches over my heart on my vest

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

I am generally very cagey about my beliefs around people I don't know very well. My friends know that I am a communist, though they don't know enough about the particulars of different strains to know what kind I usually identify with, they do know enough about leftist politics to know that I do not identify as a 'progressive' and in general find progressives distasteful politically, though I will hold my nose if there is actually something to be gained by collaboration.

That said, if someone asks me about something I will give my honest opinion and why I believe that, but people are honestly abit baffled when I discuss differences between pre-war and post-war USSR or US policy or get in depth with Smith, Ricardo, Marx, Hegel, or even Von Mises or DiLorenzo. Most of my arguments and beliefs draw from philosophy, history, anthropology, and even basic engineering economy such as lean manufacturing, so people have troubling pinning me into the 'communist' box or any box, because most people just have rarely ever heard anyone ever talk like me or express their opinions in the way I do.

[–] autism_2@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago
[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Dumb-guy socialist. Online and offline. I'm no organizer, or movement builder, or leader—my life is a chaotic mess even without all that. I'm just the guy who shows up to the picket line with rice and chili, and will throw hands if absolutely necessary.

Otherwise I just stick to my garden, offer a safe haven for any LGBT kids in the neighborhood who don't have one at home, and keep a couch clear if somebody needs to crash for a night or two.

[–] Deadend@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

You will be called a Tankie

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

Around normies I'm a centrist. Centre-left maybe. If they are cool enough I'm a socialist. But most normies just want to know you don't like either political party in the US

My political friends that don't agree with me but aren't stupid I call myself a tankie.

Comrades I'll just say M-L or socialist or communist depending on the vibe

[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

Among liberals I say I'm a socialist. Among socialists I say I'm a communist. Among communists I say I'm a liberal. All of these are true.

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Among socialists, I call myself an autonomous communist.

Among normie libs, I call myself an anarchist.

In potentially hostile company, I say "I just don't think anyone's better than anyone else" or "I don't think people are entitled to anything [like other people's surplus value]" or "I distrust both big government and big business".

[–] StillNoLeftLeft@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

With people I trust (not many) it's commie. In lefty social media a communist.

At work I will say I'm a leftist if it comes up and depending on the situation will hint at the lefter with anti-imperialist or class related talk. If I really feel safe around a person might say socialist/Marxist. If I feel unsafe, I won't engage at all if asked about my politics.

With clients I am to be apolitical, but if the situation presents itself I will bring up stuff like material conditions and generally aim to aid class consciousness in some way.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

I am a socialist or a communist depending on who I am talking to an how scary the idea of communism is to them

[–] Facky@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

I just say I'm on the left cause I really don't know the terms well.

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I tell people I'm a communist. I guess I'm a bit privileged in that I'm a big white guy so the chances of someone responding violently are really low, and I've gotten into plenty of arguments with coworkers. In said arguments I try to stick to less radical stuff - public healthcare good, privatization bad, etc - I figure it's easier to meet people halfway to where they're at and try to pull them left than try to get them to jump straight to "death to Amerikkka unlimited genocide on the first world", that said I will explicitly reference successful Chinese and Soviet policies whenever relevant, my latest line is "if it's so good that Trump calls it 'cheating', why don't we do it here!?" (referring to state corps and public investment and so on).

[–] leftAF@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

I usually just say "collectivist" and then never stop trying to convince them that the system as it currently exists is making everything worse and will break down. So we either organize in advance or get taken along for the ride. Whatever brainworms they or I have about the specifics of any theoretical future changes aren't super important, there has been a dictatorship of capital for as long as anyone can remember in most of the world.

[–] newacctidk@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think leftists is the most suspect, and anti-capitalist usually means someone who does not believe in something beyond criticism. I remember Brace and Liz in a Q&A saying not to tell normies you are ML, even if you definitively are, because Communist as a label is more easily understood.

[–] HNBethune@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do you have a link to that Q&A by any chance?

[–] newacctidk@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

at 57:38 https://soundcloud.com/trueanonpod/true-and-a/sets

It is great, Brace explains why Marxism-Leninism and democratic centralism are so important, but speak for themselves to normies

[–] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I just say communist sounding stuff

some people recognise it as communist

some people go huh tell me more about what the CIA did in Africa...

if people ask for an ideology I just say ah I don't know I just believe that workers should get a more equal share of the profits they create... And landlords are ghoulish leeches.

[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

I generally call myself an Anarchist with Anarcho-Communist leanings. But I have to be careful because there are at least four militias (3 national orgs and one local) in my area. It helps that I look like a chud, so I can usually Trojan Horse some leftist concepts, but I also hear the wildest chud takes sometimes because people assume I'm one of them. I'm pretty good at eliding some names/labels so I don't trigger the brainworms of people.

[–] stupid_asshole69@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

I just say insane communist.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

"I'm literally a communist"

[–] Ithorian@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ancom to comrades, radical leftist to everyone else.

[–] very_poggers_gay@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

i'm comfortable identifying as a communist only around a few crowds, but my go to line when i'm not sure (e.g., at work, around libs) is "i don't believe that capitalism can solve the problems capitalism creates"

maybe i rationalize it like this: For most people, hearing something like communism, socialism, etc. can bring up all kinds of pre-existing ideas, (mis)information, etc. that I'm not necessarily interested in contending with. i'd rather start with ideas that sound reasonable and that I can defend or expand upon - before uttering the word "communism", ideally keeping people more receptive and avoiding me having to answer for alleged/actual crimes or failures of AES.

[–] Alisu@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

"Leftist" or "radical Leftist". Unless I'm among comrades, then it's marxist

[–] woodenghost@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

At work: Leftist, with leftist friends who aren't Marxists: Marxist, with Marxists: Marxist-Leninist.

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If you ask the people around me it's "pro China glazer"

And honestly thats fine with me.

[–] WoodScientist@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago
[–] Comrade_Mushroom@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I don't say shit unless people are open and willing to talk. And even then the most I'll usually share is that all I really want is for as many people as possible to have lives as long and happy as possible, and that our current system of letting a handful of the most ghoulish monsters alive reap all the benefits of human civilization is very obviously not working to the benefit of humanity.

[–] kittin@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

I don’t really care to exactly define it but basically I’m a Marxist who thinks that centralized planning using algorithms would likely be the most effective form of economy enabling the greatest good for the greatest number. I also think this future becomes inevitable given the falling rate of profit, which will approach the point where the profit motive simply doesn’t work so capitalism definitely ends. I just hope the centrally planned economy is controlled by the people and not some kind of barbaric feudalism with 99.999% wealth concentration.

[–] CrookedSerpent@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

Very liberal