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Jesus Christ it's 2025, I thought we all agreed that shit was gross

Maybe we need to start bullying Chuds again. Trump winning has made them feel too safe.

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[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 55 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Maybe we need to start bullying Chuds again.

We should've never stopped in the first place. xi-square-up

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 23 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I agree, we've gotten way too soft

[–] sweatersocialist@hexbear.net 26 points 5 days ago (1 children)

i’ve been hard this whole time

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 16 points 5 days ago

rat-salute-2 a real soldier

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 25 points 5 days ago (2 children)

When was the last time you heard about a fascist getting hit with a milk shake?

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The closest I can think of is that health insurance CEO getting Luigi'd

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 18 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Let's see that become a trend though. The milkshake thing I thought was starting to take off into a tradition of sorts. It was a trend for a while but just kinda stopped.

[–] copandballtorture@hexbear.net 7 points 5 days ago

Once the media started reporting the milkshakes were filled with caustic materials (they weren't, they were always just milkshakes, often vegan) and the cops started saying you would be charged with felony battery for throwing one, the trend just kinda stopped

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 6 points 5 days ago

Prett sure I read something about copy cats taking a year to start sprouting up after the initial incident so here's hoping for 2026 to be a great year

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 3 points 5 days ago

Nigel Farage got milkshaked towards the end of 2024, too long ago

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 27 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

I don't think it ever went away, it's been a chud golden age since roughly 2012 when they found their golden goose with crusading against "tumblr misandrists". Arguably, we need to find the right's weakest link. Something to attack that isn't too controversial to dislike, and then strawman the right to all endorse the exaggeration of that worst thing.

In Canada and Europe, I would guess leftists could get a lot of mileage out of "what are we, a bunch of ignorant Americans?" and just paint chuddery as this American contamination. There's very little Americans in Europe to defend themselves offline, and it plays a bit into their ego.

EDIT: I am not denying that Europe has its own assholery, but it's moreso playing into people's ego as a possible 'weak point', even if it's not entirely true.

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The right's weakest link was found, bizarrely enough, by the Democrats. Calling them weird. But of course, they couldn't keep using that...

[–] blame@hexbear.net 15 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Everything they do is so fucking weird. Sperm racing?

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 13 points 5 days ago

i miss when they thought IVF kids wouldn't have souls.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] blame@hexbear.net 10 points 5 days ago

it's a new weird thing they're doing

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Uhhh... what is that?

I know people with actual cum fetishes who think about sperm less than these weirdos.

[–] blame@hexbear.net 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Sulv@hexbear.net 9 points 5 days ago

First match this Friday, anyone wanna do a watch party?

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

There's very little Americans in Europe to defend themselves offline,

Nyoron

Edit: Not that I'm trying to argue against the angle of chuddery being "[Septic] contamination", cause like the worst people I've ever met in Norway all got their ideas from like Joe Rogan and Ben Shapiro, and most of the neo-Nazi stickers I've had the displeasure of seeing have been in fact in English. There is certainly a lot of "home-grown" chuddery as well — that's a point we have to be very careful with — but it should not be understated how much of the chuddery we see today is a cultural import. It's like I've said, under English-language hegemony, fascism no longer needs translators.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, good point. You could do a whole college course on all the bad things France did without neither America nor Britain's "help". Japan and Saudi Arabia too if you want to cut out the west entirely.

But the reason I frame it as this is to play into people's ego. "We are doing this wrong thing to minorities" makes them defensive but "Americans are influencing us to be dumb and cringe like them. We're [X]! We're better than this!" is an easier sell.

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Is an easier sell necessarily a good thing, though? If you're only immunizing people against the form but not the content, you know...

[–] picklemeister@hexbear.net 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

this is where I land because hey, if it works then it works, but i do think there's a fine line between something being 'imported' and something from abroad speaking to what was already there. like, us american culture wars aren't transported to and imposed upon europe, they're just bombastically repackaged versions of things that already existed throughout "the west" ( to include Japan) which are eagerly adopted by sympathetic ears. an easy example from br*tish culture would be the institutional transphobia there which has its own roots in cultural mores and academic terfery and while it interplays and accepts influence from outside, the outside is speaking to what was already inside. the attitude and tone are deeply influenced by what's happening in the us (because it's essentially the front lines of these culture wars) but the content isn't new to europeans in any but the most superficial lenses.

basically i would never say it's a bad idea to blame america because everyone should, but being mindful that what america has done has been enthusiastically aided and abetted by the west for their own benefit and only after effectively handing off the mask of chief exploiter from themselves to the us so that they could continue to benefit under better branding. that these ideas and concepts have always had eager adherents throughout the west and the combative nature of the amerikkkan version is appealing because of these underpinnings.

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 6 points 5 days ago

Very well said.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Probably not, but if I’m just talking out of my ass here then disregard this, I’m not a professional in the slightest like PSL is.

My thoughts are that we’re not going into the nitty-gritty at the first step, and starting with how THEY’RE getting hurt. Again, if this is bad practice let me know pls.

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

most of the neo-Nazi stickers I've had the displeasure of seeing have been in fact in English

Seeing a RETVRN TO TRADITION sticker in small town Poland was very funny.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 10 points 5 days ago

Imagine seeing one in Italy lol

[–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

And that home grown chuddery can also be framed as American influence with a thin coat of local paint over it.

[–] invo_rt@hexbear.net 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

chud golden age

To be extremely reductionist, they kinda posted themselves into the white house twice

john-agony

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

In Canada and Europe, I would guess leftists could get a lot of mileage out of "what are we, a bunch of ignorant Americans?"

Funny enough, that used to be the attitude in New Zealand. At least I remember it was the attitude of the adults around me when I was like 7. Then 9/11 happened and melted their brains.

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 11 points 5 days ago

Then 9/11 happened and melted their brains.

Many such cases

The anti-American stuff used to be popular around 2014 in Europe - since then, liberals love America and even though they dislike Trump, he's seen as the lesser evil.

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

In Canada and Europe, I would guess leftists could get a lot of mileage out of "what are we, a bunch of ignorant Americans?"

I hate how well this could work, the largest (only?) pillar of Canadian "identity" is not being American, just look at how riled up people got with the 51st state rhetoric

[–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Why hate it? I’m actually a little optimistic that social reactionaries can be defanged and marginalized groups made safer through anti-American xenophobia.

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Maybe hate wasn't the best word to use there, I can't say I'm upset about more people being anti-american. Normally my anti-american stance gets a lot of pushback from people so it's been nice to have people agree that America sucks.

I am frustrated that the people around me didn't/don't care about all the objectively evil shit the amerikkkan empire has done all over the globe, but the second there's the slightest hint of amerikkka bringing that evil to them they're up in arms. They have no problem with benefiting from being a lapdog of empire, they only oppose it being aimed at them.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I would frame it as a cultural invasion of American idiocy.

I’ve been somewhat tongue-in-cheek about it, but I welcome Europe leaving America “holding the bag” for lack of a better term.

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 7 points 5 days ago

That would probably work for the uneducated. Anyone who has read Plato though will know that shit is homegrown, flown the coup, and come back to roost for Europe.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 19 points 6 days ago (2 children)

There's both an exuberance and an added sweatiness to it that wasn't there last time. Like they're really feeling themselves, but at the same times there's an air of...something. Vicious desperation? Halfheartedness?

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 15 points 6 days ago

I feel like it's coming from liberals now too.

[–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 12 points 5 days ago

I’ve computed the viciousness desperation as the American political apparatus really truly understanding that it’s the Chinese century and it’s too late to reverse it. The Biden administration had a sweatiness too in their stalwart denial of reality. Schumer still has this form, the insistence that this is all a big political fad and we’ll go back to 1995 any day now.

[–] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

it was later mellinials in 2015, now it's late gen z, the kids grew older, the kids grew older. Also Trump being back

[–] OldSoulHippie@hexbear.net 3 points 5 days ago

These young gen Z MAGA dorks aren't old enough to really remember trump #1 and that is enough to hurt my head.

Time is a fuck and this is why we don't ever make a lot of progress. Young people become politically aware and want to try to fight the system "their own way" but that usually just means the ineffectual methods the older generation(s) tried. But you can't tell them nothing so off they go with their pithy signs to the scheduled and permitted protest. They write their congresspeople, they share their memes...

And nothing happens. Nothing changes, not really. They get disillusioned and move on. Rinse and repeat

[–] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 6 points 5 days ago

Internet is a flat circle rust-darkness