The people calling Hamas terrorists would have said Nelson Mandela and Angela Davis were terrorists as well.
this post was submitted on 17 May 2025
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I saw a guy argue that Nelson Mandela was pro-Israel (that guy was Ethan Klein)
The US government did not remove Nelson Mandela from their terrorist list until 2008.
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This has been debunked
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Yes. None of what you're saying is true. Hamas does not use children as human shields, and they can't live wealthy lives in Qatar while also being out in the battlefield using children as human shields and committing mass rape and living in tunnels and hiding in schools and hospitals as command centers.
Try to think a little.
Y'all are such assholes. Allow people to be wrong and then accept correction. Every time I ask a question on a socialist Lemmy I get insulted. This is not how you gain supporters.
I can count 2 people out of 5 who responded to you who said something insulting. Although I don't generally endorse it as an effective means of getting through to people, it is a trivial nothing next to a narrative that vilifies those who are doing armed resistance against colonial occupation and genocide.
In other words, it's not about you and overly focusing on those who make it about you, who are tired of hearing the words of zionist garbage, is distracting from the point. You should want to support the cause as best you can because you believe in it, not just because people in its orbit are nice to you. Of course, being nice can be a very effective persuasive tactic for a myriad of worldviews, but it does not in itself mean one is on the "right side of history." Many a "nice" liberal ends up supporting imperialist wars, so...
You put it way better than I did, and I'm one of the two that insulted him. While we are quipping over feelings millions of innocent people are being starved to death in gaza for simply existing. Do any of us really know what starving feels like? It is fucking horrible.
There was no hamas baby killer, and fuck me truthfully if there was I would observe them as someone who is a part of the most traumatised nation on earth not being able to control themselves, its one of those isntances where between a murderer and a victim there are two victim. But the worst bit is, there was no murderer, just a concept of a person to drum up support from those who are indifferent to endorse the killing of millions
You think it was a gross imbalance between your simply being wrong and my uncalled for insult? You literally called thousands of people, who are fighting for their lives against a fascist military, baby killers and human shield users and mass rapists.
Asking you to put some fucking effort into your analysis before labeling people like that is, relatively, extremely gentle. The fact that you take offense to it is 100% about you and the difficulty you have with the consequences of changing a small set of your beliefs.
Even if it has been debunked...
It is at this point, if you had any sincerity as a human being at this stage in your development, would have been to stop and have some introspection into how you got it wrong. You instead doubled down because you already have decided who should be considered less than human.
And think about your scale of morality here; you consider assholery in calling out your racism not your defense of genocide. If you ask those who fight against their own ethnic cleansing not to fight and buy into the narratives of those commiting the genocide then you are the on the side of the world that represents mass cultural sociopathy and exploitation.
Saying someone is an asshole for saying "try to think a little" is the wailing and thrashing of your cognitive disonnance. It's not your fault ... the stream of zionist propaganda is unrelenting. Accepting correction inherently feels like an insult, until the "accept" part.
Look, you got dogged I wont lie, but its okay to be wrong and just keep it moving, nobody here will treat you different. The freagle person who you replied to didnt use any remarks about you, unlike me when I did reply, so you got to know I mean it sincerely when I say that its okay and that you wont be treated different for being wrong here. Growth is ugly and to do so we got to get shit wrong, we all know that. I am no different I've been on the receiving end of a bodying, so too is everyone else here no doubt.
For what its worth, everyone here cannot stand israeli lies being spouted while literal children, mothers,the elderly and men are being starved to death right now in the millions. We are all human and all tired, thats why you didnt get handheld.
Honestly the fact that there was no baby killer Palestinian should leave you more depressed, give that thought space because fuck me is it depressing that these are just people being genocided for existing. Lot of emotion in the air but remember the real victims while we here are quarreling are in gaza
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Its alright, I understand. If you haven't already, check out Norm Finklestein and Gabor Mate for extra info, once you get closer to knowing the full context of the Palestine genocide your heart will be utterly broken.
But I want to give you the comfort of knowing that American empire and capitalism as a global financial model (as well as its derivatives like neofeudalism) is majorly dying and as a result things facsistic states (btw sadly all capitalist states are and can with great ease be facsistic) will take riskier decisions to bring back the status quo, thats why its getting a lot worse, but they really will lose. Everyone now knows the United States is perpetually 4 years away from becoming openly fascist with sadistic characteristics, or fascistic with diplomatically learned helplessness. The west is loosing a grip on its vassal and hostage states as this multipolarity is pursued further, and that pursuit is something the USA is losing the capacity to change. Survive and get in touch with your local socialist organisations and help your local community.
This is not the end of humanity, sadly and fortunately
Lmao I'm gonna keep this reply up though after your ban because it deserves to become a copypasta. Stop playing the victim and own up to the harmful shit you said.
death to more settlers. mass rapes never happened; but mass rapes of Palestinian woman and children definitely do and have been recorded. The "Crimes" you talk about are nothing more than manufactured bullshit by a zionist regime who has committed far, far worse atrocities than they could ever hope to make up about Hamas.
Zionist propaganda is the source of that nonsense. Zionist propaganda that is there to try to justify genocide and further Islamophobia.
Long since debunked you obtuse mouth, but fun fact, the Israelis actively target mothers children and pregnant women :D
Seriously, every horrible thing you hear about Hamas is just Israel projecting because they cannot think of any tame war crimes to accuse Hamas of since the israelis themselves are always the most vile of fascists and commit hegnous acts. I've yet to be proven wrong.
No, they probably didn't. Isn'treal lies about Hamas.