this post was submitted on 20 May 2025
539 points (98.9% liked)

politics

23667 readers
2675 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Donald Trump argued that a GOP budget bill should help only Republican states instead of benefiting Democratic governors.

"We're going to make a couple of tweaks," Trump said of his "one big beautiful bill" during a Tuesday trip to Capitol Hill. "I mean, we don't want to benefit Democrat governors, although I would do that if it made it better, but they don't know what they're doing."

"We want to help all the states, but we have governors that are from the Democrat [sic] party, let's say New York, Illinois, big ones, and let's say Gavin 'Newscum,' who's done a horrible job in California."

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 282 points 1 week ago (18 children)

Remind me which states pay all the fucking taxes again?

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 116 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Remind me again why some states would want to remain in a union if they aren't benefiting from the partnership

[–] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just asking but what about Kansas that has 3/4 districts support the President and a Dem gov cause our most populated district is the blue one? Do we get the money? Half? Maybe we get the money but we go screw ourselves later?

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 week ago (3 children)

As soon as tornado season is in full swing ... you'll know your answer

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But they won’t know when the Tornados are coming because Trump gutted NOAA

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Can we just get to the Civil war part of this timeline already, I’m fucking tired man

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I realize I'm making some optimistic assumptions about the durability of our election apparatus, but if we can't get a shift in power at the midterms I suspect the fascist in chief will accelerate his rate of attacks on freedoms and it won't be long after that. I predict we make it no later than slightly past the midterms before hitting that point unless there's a big shift on the congressional side of things.

Not so much because I think people will take to the streets with that in mind, by the way, but because tensions will be so high that somebody somewhere is going to make just the wrong mistake, some people are going to die or get badly hurt, and it's going to set things off from there.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The civil war has already started- and the “opposition” seems pretty content to spend the first stages allowing MAGA to set up the battlefields and terms of engagement to their liking.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It never ended. The side that thought it won just stopped fighting.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 19 points 1 week ago (7 children)

If there is a civil war, I'm sure the enemies of the US would rejoice. It's like that onion article that's like "al queda decides to sit back and watch US destroy itself".

But aside from that, I hope the conservatives lose. And I hope after they lose, we learn from history. Don't just let them come crawling back into power like after the first civil war. The ultra rich and their lackeys need to be removed from power, and kept out.

Then again, the 14th amendment should disqualify Trump and a bunch of the republicans, and that doesn't seem to matter.

load more comments (7 replies)
load more comments (10 replies)
[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This is what always blows my mind. All these states with leadership bitching about mooching off the federal government are exactly the states which mooch off of the federal government, because their states produce literally nothing.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

He’s saying he wants to make that imbalanced dynamic worse than he did last time. It’s a comically nihilistic strategy - or at least, it would be, if I didn’t live in one of the bluest states in the damn country

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Mine pays for a huge number of them. California.

We're going to vote on whether we want to seriously pursue succeeding from the US in 2028. If this shit doesn't stop, I imagine things will slowly fall apart in this country.

California recently (this year, I believe) became the fourth largest GDP in the world, previously the fifth.

https://www.sos.ca.gov/administration/news-releases-and-advisories/2025-news-releases-and-advisories/Proposed-Initiative-Enters-Circulation-Requires-Future-Vote-on-Whether-California-Should-Become-Independent-Country

load more comments (5 replies)
load more comments (13 replies)
[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 94 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think the blue states should cut all the funding they provide for the government.

[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

balkanization of the united states plays right into putin's best interests. how about we just stack conservative bodies until this country stops being so fucking stupid?

[–] frezik@midwest.social 24 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It's too late for that. Everyone is finding the exit for the USD as the reserve currency. That loss of soft power alone is seismic.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Even just CA would absolutely make an impact.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (8 children)

California secession / Calexit would be beautiful. That is how I know it would never happen, even as rest of the US collapses into Gilead.

load more comments (8 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 92 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

“The United [sic] States.”

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Segregated States of Americans, nee United.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 82 points 1 week ago

Time for blue states to stop paying federal tax, then.

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 79 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That must be comforting to hear to republican citizens living in those blue states.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago (2 children)

All those red districts in blue states, get ready to get screwed. Trump ain’t helping you.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

Unless you're in the top 1% of wealth, he isn't helping you either.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] BlackSheep@lemmy.ca 66 points 1 week ago (7 children)

California, Oregon, Washington. I think you should join Canada! Free Health Care. It’s not perfect, but you won’t lose your house or life savings if you have a health issue.

[–] xyzzy@lemm.ee 37 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Believe me, many of us are down for that. Or the Pacific States of America. Or Cascadia and the Republic of California.

It's the devastating war that would follow that we're nervous about.

load more comments (13 replies)
load more comments (6 replies)
[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 63 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Time for articles of impeachment. Or secession.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 60 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Let me sure I got this right. Your plan is to take states that don't like you and teach them to be more independent of the federal government, is that correct?

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] deepfriedchril@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Perhaps concepts of a plan?

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Spiral75@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I live in NC. We have a Dem governor, but the House and Senate are controlled by Republicans. The state has gone to Trump three times. What is his plan with that?

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 80 points 1 week ago (1 children)

His plan, no matter what he says, is to fuck each and every one of us who isn't already rich and preferably white.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee 23 points 1 week ago

Woah you look like an immigrant with this statement. Careful about ICE

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] atmorous@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago

Blue states cut off those wankers

They've been stupid and malicious for too damn long. Let them eat their own shit

[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 46 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Divided States of America (DSA)

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] foggy@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago

You want Boston to throw another tea party? They're game.

No taxation without representation motherfucker.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 32 points 1 week ago

That means I don’t have to pay federal taxes for it right?

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And whenever it’s Democrats in power they have to kiss Republicans’ ass.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago (4 children)

No, they treat all Americans as All Americans. Which is apparently a fucking unbelievable concept.

load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Note that there’s no claim of it helping any people or benefitting constituents, even his own. In this world of narcissism, there’s only “what’s in it for me?” And “how to spite anyone who disagrees with me?”

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He's a literal traitor.

Americans are just too stupid to see it in anything but hindsight.

Assuming the fascists don't win and rewrite history, he will be considered a traitor in the history books.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Poppa_Mo@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

I don't think he realizes this isn't the gotcha he thinks. That means the poverty line between the states that already exists is going to get even worse, because they are taxing the lower income brackets even worse.

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Let's fucking Balkanize already. My blue state has all the nukes and I would love to use them on Trump and his red-state dick sucks.

load more comments (6 replies)
[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

What a fucking cunt.

load more comments
view more: next ›