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I consent to Plex to: (i) sell certain personal information (hashed emails, advertising identifiers) to third-parties for advertising and marketing purposes; and (ii) store and/or access certain personal information (advertising identifiers, IP address, content being watched) on my device(s) and share that information with Plex’s advertising partners. This data is used to deliver personalised ads and content, ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. Your consent applies to all devices on which you have Plex installed. You can withdraw your consent at any time in Account Settings or using this page.

Soure: https://www.plex.tv/vendors/ (Might have to clear cache)

Can also read about the changes here: https://www.plex.tv/about/privacy-legal/

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[–] Ushmel@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

"Updated “Who does Plex share or sell Personal Data with?” to include the Plex activity that you share based on your account visibility and activity settings as well as sharing/sale of certain Personal Data to third parties.

Nothing changes for Plex Accounts created before March 20, 2025 unless you change your preferences here.
If you are a new user and created an account after March 20, 2025, you can update your preferences here.
The types of data that we may share has not changed
We do not and will not collect information about content or titles in your personal media library or what you’ve played.
Personal media users: we do NOT, and will not, share or sell any information about the content and titles on or your use of a personal media server.
Consent is required by all Plex Accounts created before March 20, 2025 for the sale of their data."

Seems like it's just for their other services, which I already assumed they were tracking and selling view counts.

[–] sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net 1 points 3 hours ago

Speedrunning destroying your platform.

[–] mrpollo@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 day ago

The downfall of Plex needs to be compiled into an 80 minute YouTube video with sponsors spaced in for NordVPN and Viagra

[–] nix98@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m a big fan of Jellyfin. I would say it is easily family approved. That is for my family in my household who is using it on our home Wi-Fi.

But I am not about to expose it publicly. I have WireGuard set up on my immediate family’s devices and that is mostly ok (until you get on a public Wi-Fi that fails because you haven’t gone through their portal and can’t because the vpn is on, or you are on an airplane’s Wi-Fi with no internet trying to watch their movies and it doesn’t work until you turn off the vpn). Explaining this to my wife has been a nonstop battle.

I’d like it open it up to my siblings families, especially because I have the ersatztv plug-in to create approved child stations, but so many smart tvs and devices don’t support a vpn. How have others handled that situation?

[–] tiramichu@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Wireguard doesn't necessarily need to have those limitations, but it will depend in part how your VPN profile is set up.

If you configured your wireguard profile to always route all traffic over the VPN then yeah, you won't be able to access local networks. And maybe that's what you want, in which case fine :)

But you can also set the profile to only route traffic that is destined for an address on the target network (I.e your home network) and the rest will route as normal.

This second type of routing only works properly however when there are no address conflicts between the network you are on (i.e. someone else's WiFi) and your home network.

For this reason if you want to do this it's best to avoid on your own home network the common ranges almost everyone uses as default, i.e. 192.168.0.* and 10.0.0.*

I reconfigured my home network to 192.168.22.* for that reason. Now I never hit conflicts and VPN can stay on all the time but only traversed when needed :)

[–] nix98@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I typically use split routing BUT also have dns set to my pihole, both so dns works for my internal services and for tracker blocking. That causes a big issue. Also I wish WireGuard would just handle failures better. Even when it can’t connect, it seems to break networking (at least on iOS)

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 51 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Meanwhile, poor Jellyfin just quietly doing the job.

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[–] midtsveen@lemmy.wtf 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oh, you expect proprietary software to behave nicely? That’s cute!

I’ll just be over here with Jellyfin, watching the chaos unfold with my popcorn!

[–] yournamehere@lemm.ee 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"enshittification wont happen to my software of choice"

hahahaha... those ppl with discord, iphones, windows,plex....they wont learn.

android is risking enshittification too if google keeps trying to close down it's development. nothing is safe unless it is free of greedy corporations

[–] andybytes@programming.dev 6 points 1 day ago

Got rid of Plex a long time ago. Trash ass program

[–] guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I assumed they already were.

No chance Plex wasn't making money from those who didn't pay for Plex Pass.

[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I know, right? Any 'free' service with that much infrastructure to support, is more than likely selling your data. I guess, it's kind of refreshing that a company comes right out and tells you they're about to bend you over the barrel.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I might actually have to switch to Jellyfin then...

I say that as a paying plex pass customer

[–] 0x0@infosec.pub 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I find it wild that you still seem unsure. What would make you say "Thats it, im switching!"?

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[–] sirico@feddit.uk 17 points 2 days ago

How else can they afford to stream samurai cop 3 and other things you never asked? You guys need to support them in becoming the best corp they can be! They want to be big boys now.

[–] Selfhoster1728@infosec.pub 391 points 3 days ago (219 children)

I don't know why everyone in the selfhosting community still even mentions Plex or uses it.

It's closed source, not free; Jellyfin is a no brainer yet people still go to Plex??

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 277 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

The sunken cost of buying a plexpass on sale for 39 dollars 15 years ago.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 137 points 3 days ago (9 children)

I bought a Plex pass for 90 or something. I officially dropped Plex about 4 months ago now. For 90 bucks I got something like 8 years out of it. I'll call that a win, I don't feel like I wasted my money, I don't feel like I overpayed. Just moving on now.

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[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 115 points 3 days ago (51 children)

Jellyfin is hardly a no-brainer. I set it up out of curiosity a few weeks ago and my first question was how do I give access to my friends and family. So I searched, and all of the results were talking about setting up a VPN or a reverse proxy or whatever. Man, I just want to tell my mom "install this app on your tv and log in", which is exactly what Plex does.

I get that Plex is enshittifying, but pretending Jellyfin is a drop-in replacement is delusional.

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[–] fargeol@lemmy.world 265 points 3 days ago (11 children)
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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I miss when you could use something without it turning into spyware. Jellyfin it is then.

[–] Scurouno@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 days ago

We are altering the deal. Pray, we do not alter it further.

[–] diffusive@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I have a lifetime Plex pass but still I am considering switching. Currently I have both Jellyfin and Plex on the same libraries but Jellyfin doesn’t have support for chromecast (on iOS and Firefox) nor support for offline . (Not) covering neither my at home nor travelling use cases 😕

[–] kvadd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

For chromecast to work with the app, you need to install the jellyfin app from google play, not fdroid or other store.

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[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 25 points 2 days ago (5 children)

It's interesting to see the different kind of comments here and on Redshit.

Here, people are smart and they are switching to Jellyfin. On Redshit, if people mention Jellyfin in a comment they get downvoted right away.

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[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Force PlexPass first, get money, then change terms.

Coordinated big-brain evil.

Big plus - identify all accounts interested in privacy. Thus = suspicious accounts.

This is the path for Plex to become Digg, Playon, and reddit.

[–] insight06@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (5 children)

For those who aren't quite ready to delete their accounts get, this link buried on their privacy page can let you opt out: https://www.plex.tv/vendors-us

Not sure why "us" is in the URL, I'm in Canada

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[–] Seefoo@lemmy.world 51 points 2 days ago (8 children)

This is specifically related to watching their free content. You can opt out of the sale & sharing of said data, which is used to play you targeted ads when watching their free content. I am not a big fan, but this is the typical "free" TV spiel. Was there something that changed recently or is it just being recognized now?

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[–] disconnectikacio@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Stopped using plex, replaced with jellyfin

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[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 67 points 2 days ago (28 children)

Seeing the replies in this thread it kinda makes me wonder what Plex actually has to do for these zealots to quit using their platform.

Like do they literally have to steal naked pictures of you and pass them around the office? Like wtf.

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[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Plex has always been trash imo. Far better open source options available.

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