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both Bernie Sanders and AOCIA have said the attack in Boulder was "anti-Semitic". The attack was explicitly targeted at pro-Israeli Zionists, literally at a Zionist political rally, and the person who did it said he was specifically targeting Zionists. Random Jews were not targeted and attacked. He did not go to some random Synagogue and attack Jews. He did not just find random Jews on the street to attack. It was specifically targeted at a Zionist pro-Israeli fascist group.

The exact same thing happened with the Israeli embassy Christian Zionist who was eliminated. AOCIA and Bernie Sanders lied and did the conflation there too even though he wasn't even Jewish, and even if he had been, HE WAS NOT TARGETED FOR THAT.

Conflating Israel with all Jews and lying that Zionists who are targeted are not being targeted for their fanatical devotion to the genocidal Israeli death-cult and its mass burning alive, beheading,removed and murder of Palestinian babies, children, girls, boys, women and men, intentionally launders genocidal Zionist propaganda.

So it is not at all surprising that both Sanders and AOCIA who have done this from the beginning of the genocide are still doing it now:

never forget that AOCIA viciously smeared anti-genocide protesters in New York, saying "anti-Semitism has no place in our city", and voted for the IHRA equating criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism. She helped normalize the fascist Zionist censorship industrial complex that is now kidnapping people off the street

in 2023, right as the genocide was reaching its most murderous levels, Bernie Sanders voted for a Senate Resolution condemning anti-genocide student protesters and organizations as "antisemitic, repugnant, and morally contemptible". He is directly responsible for the deportations

Zionism is not identical to being Jewish. That is the propaganda lie that is constantly spread to cast every act of opposition to Zionists and the genocidal death-cult as being inherently anti-Semitic, and Bernie Sanders and AOCIA have been key figures in laundering that lie

they keep doing this over and over again. Synagogues that are holding fundraisers for the genocidal Israeliremoved-army that is right now at this moment burning babies alive and starving them are protested, often by anti-Zionist Jews, and it's written as "OMG ANTISEMITIC ATTACK!!!"

it's a very simple truism intentionally obscured by propagandist liars like Bernie Sanders and AOCIA: Zionists are targeted not based on their identity, but specifically and explicitly based on their genocidal ideology. John Mearsheimer destroyed this lie:

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[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 89 points 1 month ago (1 children)

equating the genocide with all jews is antisemitic monke-rage

[–] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 39 points 1 month ago

All of the orgs are having hard struggle sessions about this shit

[–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 82 points 1 month ago

Oh i wasn’t aware they firebombed a Synagogue, that would be antisemitic!

What’s that? They firebombed a pro-genocide march full of people there because they are pro-genocide and not because of their religious or ethnic background?

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 77 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If I was Jewish I would be offended at being likened to genocidal Zionists by politicians constantly.

[–] moss_icon@hexbear.net 63 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I am Jewish and am offended at being likened to genocidal Zionists by politicians constantly.

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It would explain why at a recent pro-Palestinean protest I was told that it was the Jewish people there who seemed like they were the most ready to throw down. They must have been pissed at having their identities weaponized lol.

[–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

One of my coworkers whenever we got paired together would basically rant the whole time about how much she hates Israel and how sick she is of them claiming to represent her, “monsters doing genocide in my name”

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 6 points 1 month ago

Those damn antisemetic Jews I tell ya!

[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago

Me too thanks deeper-sadness

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 50 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A lot of people very vocally are. The Zionist program of conflating Zionism with Judaism is insidious as shit.

[–] KnownUnknownKnower@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Insidious and a deliberate tactic of zionists since the inception of the movement.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 3 points 1 month ago

Zionism is just so fucked up man.

[–] Lyudmila@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I find it deeply upsetting.

[–] moss_icon@hexbear.net 60 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I will never understand why socdems have such a hard on for these two idiots.

[–] godlessworm@hexbear.net 56 points 1 month ago

they want the system to work and they think these two are the solution imo

[–] Sinisterium@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

Social fascism or something idk

Because being controlled opposition is what entire socialdemocracy is about.

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[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 55 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I do not care about this attack. I do not care if any Zionists were hurt or killed. I do not care how many were killed or injured or how much their families suffered. I don't care if Zionists feel safe in public. I don't care if the attacks were antisemitic or not.

I have a hundred thousand times more compassion and sympathy for Zionists than the most kind and caring Zionist has for Palestinians.

[–] godlessworm@hexbear.net 42 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

zionists have been burning palestinian babies for 2 (75+)years. who cares if a few zionists got sunburned?

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I legitimately hope every single one of those pieces of shit had their skin fuse to the polyester in their clothes. They deserve worse

At this point if every single Zionist were to die the world would be a much better place. The firebomber had the right idea.

[–] Bronstein_Tardigrade@lemmygrad.ml 46 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I see Zio-Bernard and Lil' Miss Sellout are still on their gaslighting "Supporting Oligarchy" circus tour.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I believe the proper Maoist standard english is "AOCIA" (lil miss sounds kinda uncomfortable jsyk)

[–] Bronstein_Tardigrade@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I also call Hakeem Jeffries "Lil' Nancy", so I use it as more of a descriptive of their courage.

[–] Are_Euclidding_Me@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

See, now this just sounds misogynistic. Can you please explain how you're accusing a man of being a coward by calling him "Lil' Nancy" and not doing so in a misogynistic way?

[–] THEPH0NECOMPANY@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not the person your responding to, but Hakeem Jeffries is Nancy Pelosi's protegee. That's probably the reference.

Not sure what it has to do with moral courage though, but I see these people as careerist ghouls more than cowards.

[–] Are_Euclidding_Me@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

I'm actually not super sure I want to fight about this, especially since the person I responded to never responded. So feel free to ignore this comment, it really doesn't matter much.

Your explanation makes sense, except that Bronstein_Tardigrade brought up that they call Hakeem Jeffries "Lil' Nancy" as a rebuttal to Nakoichi saying calling AOC "Lil' Miss" is uncomfortable (which I take to mean misogynistic, because it seems that way to me). And in that context, I don't then understand the argument. Bronstein_Tardigrade gets asked to please not call AOC "Lil' Miss", because it's uncomfortable (read, misogynistic), and then the response is "well that's fine, I also call a man, Hakeem Jeffries, a similar nickname, so it's not misogyny". But like, isn't it? In both cases? I'd argue at this point that actually calling AOC "Lil' Miss" is more misogynistic then calling Hakeem Jeffries "Lil' Nancy", given your explanation for where the second one comes from. Plus, of course, saying these nicknames come about as "descript[ions] of their courage" really doesn't help matters.

Misogyny is absolutely a problem on the left and I think we need to be very careful about it, including asking ourselves, truly asking ourselves, if our insulting nicknames for people actually hide some deeper bigotry, because that bigotry doesn't harm the people we're insulting, it harms our comrades. And Bronstein_Tardigrade calling people "Lil' Miss" and "Lil' Nancy" is far too close to the misogyny line for me to be comfortable with it.

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[–] sempersigh@hexbear.net 41 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone that aoc still hasn’t endorsed zohran hisssssss

Edit: okay fine she did it credit given. Probably because he gave cautious answers on Israel during the debate; she doesn’t want her brand tarnished.

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago

Like those stupid fundraising shaming / bandwagon emails.

Now flattened Bernie and AOCIA said it.

Why won't you buy into the conflation of Zionism and Judiasm? How dare you not get in board! A good Democrat would. You're a naughty leftist!

[–] john_brown@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago
[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Sinisterium@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

They are preparing to act on it, thats why.

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