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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 46 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Further machinations include an explicit “honey trap” plan which called for establishing a brothel secretly run by British intelligence in Crimea. There, Russian-speaking female Ukrainian agents would ply “drunken sailors” from the Russian navy for information.

This probably means the British state is directly involved in sex trafficking. These won't be British agents or anything of the sort they will be struggling and desperate sex workers that take a paycheck for info after being dropped into the honeypot brothels the British military own.

Calling Puting a Tsar in internal strategic planning documents suggests some of the morons in British strategy have sincerely drank the propaganda koolaid.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It always cracks me up how dumb these people really are. The more we learn about the inner workings of western governments and intelligence services the more clear it becomes that these people are complete and utter imbeciles.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I suppose there are more positions to fill than there are high quality educated people willing to be evil. They're educated, but they're not high-quality if you get what I mean. The materialists of the world are few and of them there are fewer still that are evil and of the evil ones they are usually smart enough to do other things that are worth more money.

Perhaps another way to view the struggle between the bourgeois state organisation and the revolutionary organisations is one of who can organise the largest number of materialists together in one place, becoming a more efficient and capable organising machine than the other.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I imagine another aspect of this is that it's an ideological echo chamber. The political climate in the west precludes anybody capable of material analysis from being part of the decision making process. Even people within the system who might know better, end up holding their tongues for fear of being dismissed.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Feels like empires last 250 years because that's the amount of time it takes for them to become like this. They're built by competent people and then collapse into this koolaid brained shit.

Exception to the rule historically seems to be China and the key difference I'd guess at would be the examination based administrator class.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Indeed, and I think that a key problem socialist projects should focus on going forward is ensuring competent leadership and administration in the times of plenty. It seems that human societies tend to devolve rapidly in absence of clear threats or challenges. Chinese culture of examination and demonstrated experience for people in positions of power definitely seems like the best model we've seen so far. The current model that CPC uses seems to be very much rooted in that tradition.

In today's China, if you want to enter politics, you have to take a hard and competitive road. Whether you come from a grassroots family or a political family, you have to go through every step. Only in this way, you can reach the top of power, like President Xi.

To get started, you have to own a college degree, at least for most Chinese govt officials. You have to take the national civil service examination and be admitted. In 2019, 92000 people took the exam and 14537 were admitted, with the admission rate of 1.58%.

The ruling party in China is the CPC. In addition, there are 8 other parties. You have to join one of them. If your ideal is to become the supreme leader of China, I suggest you join the CPC. You will be one of the 90 million CPC members. They are all your competitors.

Now, you've become a grassroots official. Your administrative level is "staff", while President Xi's administrative level is "national level principal". There are 10 levels of gap between you and President Xi. Each level requires several years and multiple examinations.

In China, "Organization Department" at all levels are responsible for the management of civil servants. Every civil servant has to take part in the grade assessment every year. The assessment is usually conducted by your colleagues, subordinates and superiors by voting. The result of the assessment is related to your future.

If you work hard and are lucky enough, you will become the highest official in a district or county. As President Xi did in 1983, he became the highest official in Zhengding County. You have to own the experience to manage hundreds of thousands or even millions of people.

Next, you have to become a city official in charge of industry or agriculture or education or commerce. Then, you become a mayor. It will take you another few years. In 1990, President Xi became the top leader of Fuzhou City, Fujian Province.

Now, if you want to become a governor then you need to repeat your previous work. The difference is that your responsibilities are greater and your work is more onerous. In 2000, President Xi became governor of Fujian Province.

After becoming the governor of a relatively small province, you have to be the governor of a relatively large province. Or you can go to border areas, such as Xinjiang or Tibet. President Hu Jintao, the former leader of China, was once the governor of Tibet.

The Political Bureau is one of the central leading bodies of the CPC. You must be a member of it. Members of the Political Bureau are elected by the plenary session of the Central Committee. It's your next goal.

Deputies to the National People's Congress ( NPC) are members of the highest organ of state power in China and are elected in accordance with law. You also have to be one of the NPCs.

If you can become a member of the Standing Committee of the Political Bureau of the CPC Central Committee, it usually consists of seven or nine people, which means that you have entered the core of China's state power. In 2007, President Xi was elected.

Similarly, different standing committees are responsible for managing different areas of the country. Through fierce competition, you finally become the top leader of China. In 2012, President Xi succeeded. He still spent 40 years on this road!

The above is the difficult road for you to become China's top leader. It is based on a strict selection system and the election of deputies to the people's Congress at all levels.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It's almost like replacing economic competition with an examination-based competency competition.

The economic competition drives corruption and then every bit of the ladder slowly fills up with people incentivized by wanting to be part of the in-crowd because that gets you the money. Then the leadership uses that incentive to drive out all competition until there's nothing left, they build an ideological monopoly driven by economic incentive.

I think the thing you want to build a system around is avoiding the tendency to trend towards ideological monopoly. When ideological monopoly is achieved that's when the positions of leadership start ensuring everyone is a sycophant, and this end of empire behaviour occurs.

There is still probably a one true correct ideological position in any given topic but the risks of the system eating itself when this spiral occurs make building in some ideological diversity much safer than not.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 17 hours ago

Exactly, and I'd argue this is precisely what makes capitalism inherently unstable. It creates inequality by design, and that directly translates into corruption. Mass inequality is fundamentally incompatible with having a stable system of governance. Amusingly, it can also be argued that capitalism discourages material analysis because large capitalists tend to be removed from things like engineering, or factory production, and the whole system evolves towards financialization over time. So, the critical understanding of how the material world actually works is largely absent within the decision making class.

[–] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Damn... this is the level of writing for internal strategic planning documents about explicit acts of war towards a rival nuclear power??

I kinda would've hoped my military planners at least knew the difference between 'interpreted' and 'interrupted'.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 3 points 15 hours ago

Seriously, this is no different than anything you could read on reddit. I knew these people were unserious, but I still didn't expect the British state to be orders of magnitude less coherent in it's analysis than the six-sided bear site.

[–] DerEwigeAtheist@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean, of course they are involved in that shit. It's the british state. They were killing civillians en masse in afghanestan. Not to mention all the sex trafficking british elites are involved in at home.

[–] RaisedFistJoker@hexbear.net 15 points 22 hours ago
[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

our navy has to be escorted by Americans anywhere not in direct line of sight of a British controlled airfield lmao

Note how Brits send ships to Red Sea and THEN said they don't have any missiles.

[–] KnilAdlez@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago

Aww look at them, thinking they're still a naval superpower

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 12 points 22 hours ago

Pleaase Let it be dolphins! Im still hoping for Russian to use bears and giant squids.

[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Simply sink the entire Russian black sea fleet

[–] acab_means_cop_Dva@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

how-much-could-it-cost It's one Russian fleet, Michael

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago

Don't engage in a protracted series of naval battles, just sink them right away!

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

UK still really want Crimea after all that time. Also it's hard to even fathom how much of a blind luck was sinking Moskva since Ukraine is such a maritime power that it couldn't finish building ship of the same class that was ready in 95%, in 30 years. And Royal Navy is in complete shambles right now.

That would explain all the terror attacks they do though.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

The UK is basically a terrorist state at this point.

[–] Palacegalleryratio@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You don’t blow your whole Light Brigade without leaving an indelible stain on your desires for that clay. Sevastopol must be Brittish!

I wonder how it feel for current British leadership to be even worse than baron Raglan.