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“We know there are voices across the world calling for a ceasefire, but what everyone needs to understand is that the only people who stand to gain from halting the bombing campaign are people who deeply value human life,”

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[–] NewDark@lemmings.world 60 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Missiles aren't going to sell themselves.

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[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago (13 children)

I do not support the Hamas terrorist attacks against Israel. That’s my Shibboleth. What Hamas did is unspeakable evil and unforgivable.

That said, Palestinians are human beings and around half of their population are children. When you cut off food, water, electricity, and bomb civilian areas, including the cultural hub of all of Gaza, to dust, maybe your retaliation has gone too far.

What if the prisoners held by Hamas are being treated humanely and taken care of? All this mass slaughter to get them back will look even more barbarous.

[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the claims are that Israel told Palestinians to move south, then bombed the corridors going south. The Palestinians moving south gave up on finding sanctuary there and went back home to the north. Then got bombed again.

I’m not saying that’s true, just what is being claimed.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 23 points 1 year ago

It is very much true and documented.

in the early days of the current camapaign Israel also told people to flee to the Rafah crossing, to bomb it a few hours later. At that point it could be argued, that the different parts of the government struggled to coordinate their actions and made a mistake.

But since then this has happened repeatedly. Including the bombing on UN operated hospitals, schools and refugee camps it is pretty clear, that Israel considers the prevention of civillians killed by Israeli bombs an afterthought at best.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The other issue is that those children will see Israel as the ones that bombed them and killed their family and will be more likely to join Hamas in the future. Further perpetuating this insanity.

An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm starting to think this is a feature, not a bug...

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I honestly don’t understand how more world leaders are not condemning Israel’s actions.

Killing innocent people should be wrong whoever is doing the killing. Rishi Cuntface Sunak refuses to ask for a ceasefire because they have the right to defend themselves, like what? Does that mean some of the innocent victims have a right to hit back at Israel.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Does that mean some of the innocent victims have a right to hit back at Israel.

And that's how Hamas was born.

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[–] toasteecup@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Tbh, I don't think either side is treating people humanely.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (7 children)

One side is an open air prison. Fuck your two sides bullshit.

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I mean they're treating hostages humanely. That's just good politics.

[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

There's a released Hamas prisoner claiming she received good medical treatment and ate the same food as the terrorists. Whoever has a brain in Hamas understands that this is a good idea. We shouldn't trust that everyone in Hamas has a brain though, just out of pure statistics there must have been prisoners who have been abused beyond just having been kidnapped because someone couldn't keep their spite inside themselves.

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Yeah, those people being genocided need to start being more civil. Otherwise they'll deserve the genocide.

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[–] lettruthout@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 20 points 1 year ago

“You honestly didn’t know whether to laugh or cry. Few people ever cried more than once, if you’d used that up, you laughed.”

—Michael David Herr, Dispatches (1977) (writing for Esquire during Vietnam War)

[–] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Somebody please Photoshop emperor palpatine's laser hands onto Biden in this photo.

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