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It's Joever for the Democrats no lie. I know polls are still pretty even and something could happen to give them a shot in the arm but honestly all the videos I've been watching and conversations I've been having IRL are just pointing to a complete anti-Democrat vibe. Watching a few videos that are saying the same thing and it could just be algorithm bias but idk. I don't even mean just for 2024 election like long term this party is fucked. I used to think they were going to be bent over and moved out of the way by the Republicans (consequently establishing a further fascist government) because Dems are spineless but they're actually doing such a terrible job that they're going to get voted out and allow the Republicans to further fascist-ize the US if that's even possible.

I'm low-key here for it, going to be interesting but I'm very scared for marginalized people and the proleys in general.

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[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 71 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] LoomingMountain@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 2 years ago

Simple and elegant visual explanation. Thank you for this

[–] taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml 56 points 2 years ago (5 children)

It's okay they'll just blame Black people for not voting instead of coming up with any sort of comprehensive plan that actually matches our interests

[–] TeezyZeezy@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Noo you OWE the Democrats your vote to prevent FASCISM and if you DON'T vote for us you actually are to blame for the further oppression of your people (which will happen under us, too)

If you don't vote for this shitty party then the other one will make things even worse and also you have no other choice and also we are the greatest democracy the world has ever seen and also skill issue bootstraps you can't shoot your way to liberation!!!

  • signed with my totally anti-racist condolences, thoughts, and prayers, the liberal state
[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 2 years ago

Be prepared for more bamboozlement under the guise of journalism. Understand that Black politics will not be part of any discussion. Making it so would create a problem for people whose goal is to win office while also excluding the people whose votes they need. Media are an important part of sham democracy. No one should expect anything more than, “But Trump!” between now and November 2024. -- Margaret Kimberley

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They're literally already telling the left to fuck off and simultaneously already blaming us for their loss a full calander year from now.

[–] taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Clown show, the lot of them. Well for us it's been the same no matter who's in office so I couldn't care any less, the real pearl clutching will come from the libs

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago

Yup I'm at the stage of "good luck with that, can't possibly imagine how that'll work out for you, if you need me I'll be over here loudly and repeatedly saying I told you so"

[–] the_post_oftom_joad@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

And the Bernie Bros! And the poll kiddos who polled but didn't show! And the misogynists who hate hill-dawg for being woman and the agesists and...

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago

They usually brag about the black vote. It's more likely latinos or some other minority group will take the heat.

[–] timicin@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 2 years ago

they’ll just blame Black people for not voting

and also not bother to do shit to help people who are blocked from voting

[–] LoomingMountain@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 2 years ago (2 children)

For me, this started in the aftermath of the Trump presidency, and the absolute denial and non-engagement of the Democratic party to self-examine their own actions that led to defeat, such as blocking Sanders to promote an unpopular Clinton, blaming everything on their voters, kicking and screaming, and then of course four years later fucking Sanders again.

I heard a good podcast with historia publica yesterday, and he said it excellently: when there's crisis, the youth wants to radicalize, but unfortunately, in our countries you are not allowed to radicalize left, only to radicalize right. (I'm paraphrasing).

[–] Dr_Gabriel_Aby@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In like 2018 pod Jons started an entire new series about litigating the previous election. Their big idea a progressive candidate who is even more progressive, cooler, hipper than Bernie. They declared Kamala as the perfect candidate.

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[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And what would have happened under Sanders the Zionist?

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't think they were saying he's good, but that even his brand of (incredibly popular) milquetost social imperialism was still unnacceptably left wing to the Democrats, who chose instead to lose Neoliberal-ly

[–] M68040@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In a world that needs to evolve or die, a party that’s got a more conservative culture than the actual Conservative opposition is fundamentally doomed tbh

[–] TeezyZeezy@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 years ago

For sure. They refuse to adapt or falter on their shitty positions even a little bit

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The dems have no constituency. The idpol will only take you so far. At some point you have to appeal to people’s material interests, and the republicans are better than they are at appealing to the interests of the bourgeoisie.

[–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Eh, I wouldn't say Republicans are better at that. They're just marginally better at distracting and downplaying.

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[–] Beat_da_Rich@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

As a USian I'm here for it too.

Yes, it's going to suck. But it was going to suck hard anyway. At least now the Democrats will be out of the way and unable to siphon anymore revolutionary energy from the masses. It'll be final boss time from here on out.

[–] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The discrediting of the liberals prior to the Russian Revolution opened a can of fake left parties. The Bolsheviks still had to defeat many bosses before, and also in the course of, finally crushing the whites.

[–] Beat_da_Rich@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago

True. It'll be interesting to see what revolutionary organization in the US will look like going forward.

[–] PanArab@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 2 years ago

Genocide Joe proved that the Democratic Party is just polite fascists. Might as well do away with the decorum

[–] tripartitegraph@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The only way i'll support them is if they're smothered, covered, and peppered.

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

American cheese on hashbrowns visible-disgust

[–] tripartitegraph@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

As a sergeant in the People's Diners Brigade, Waffle House Division, I must ask you to face the wall

[–] timicin@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago

i want them candied lol

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[–] Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 years ago

I just can't endure the suffering of next year when the elections come, Trump probably wins and puts the nail in the coffin while everyone seethes 24/7 on social media...

[–] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Yea fr, Apolitical people I know who in the past were vaguely More for Dems (still didn’t vote tho) are now shit-talking Biden. And every point they bring up is pretty valid. I dont think they care enough to vote but still shows a shift in opinion

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[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

The democrats have made it clear that you're not voting against fascism, you're just providing a preference to where the fascism is pointing. The whole "oh if you don't vote democrat minorities are going to die" is BS when they're literally funding a mass genocide as we speak.

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let 'im cook!

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