Germany has elevated austerity to religious levels and now has to balance that against its obsession with giving free tanks to nazis.
this post was submitted on 17 Dec 2023
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So that means they'll stop sending money and weapons to 
right?
In germany, artillery shells are considered a "nachwachsender Rohstoff", which is why these didn't get axed with other climate-damaging subsidies
It can't happen in Germany, amirite, everyone?
Listen, once we finally get rid of the imported antisemitism and right wing politics by deporting and/or [redacted] all the brown people here, this country will stand again as a bastion against the horros of fascism, much like in WW2 where our entire armed forces were conscentious objectors forced into the logistics of putting jews in the camps by the evil nazis which seducted this noble, white, blond, blue eyed land into killing every minority.
Ah, the whole "we're not Nazis, we just have the Nazis' politics" dumbassery.
Of course. Who could've seen this coming...
The best way to purify the country's political well is by deporting everyone that isn't blue eyed and blond
only then will Germany be able to have the proper policies
Wait so Germany can't accrue debt on like the national level??? How is this a functional economy???
Wait so Germany can't accrue debt on like the national level??
Or on the state level, or the municipal level. All unconstitutional.
How is this a functional economy???
Oh buddy. Anyways, it's mostly kept afloat by exploitation of mostly immigrant labour following Schröders neoliberalization in the early aughts. It's where none of the often touted strong german workers rights apply in any way, shape or form, since the only option for enforcement is suing your own employer, as the respective state bureaus for enforcement are so underfunded your average company can expect 1 visit from them in around 15 - 20 years, depending on the state.
Goddamn, Stalin shouldn't have stopped at Berlin
Many people have been saying this.
They just exploit other countries in the EU ala Greece.
the constitutional law that forbids them from accruing debt because all of germany thinks national finances work the same as personal finances
And everyone knows that you should never ever ever accrue debt in your personal finances, because long-term low-interest loans in exchange for capital good production is bad, bad, bad!
As such, the 4500€ (~$4900 at the time of writing) subsidy for buying a factory new EV car has been spontaneously canceled on the basis of there is no money to be spent for it unless we stop actually being a state
Eliminating subsidies for new vehicle construction is... imho... not necessarily a bad thing. The grounds for the cancellation are dumb. And the German political system seems to be doing everything to back itself into a corner wrt fossil fuels - by gutting nuclear and falling back on coal, clinging to automotive infrastructure, and still trying to be an export oriented economy. But if the end result of all this is for the German government to neuter its ability to spend money then maybe this policy is a moot point. They're going to degrowth themselves and that will functionally undercut their ability to emit over the long term.
A lot of people finding out the german states raison d'etre is actually selling cars, which is entirely unhampered by this decision on the basis of the contracts are already signed and the state will be more than happy to enforce them on behalf of car makers, to which I say; lol, lmao, you fucking bozos
The cost of gasoline is only going up. The cost of steel is only going up. The ability for Europeans to buy and maintain their car fleets is going down.. This isn't just a European problem, either.
They're still building too many, but if they want to kick the corner of the automotive industry with the best chance of growth in the balls... Maybe that's good.
Eliminating subsidies for new vehicle construction is... imho... not necessarily a bad thing.
No it's absolutely great actually, there`s 0 reason to send even more money directly to car manufacturers and that's all this shit ever does
They're still building too many, but if they want to kick the corner of the automotive industry with the best chance of growth in the balls... Maybe that's good.
It's just about not paying out. The subsidy would've gone to the consumers, not the car manufacturers - they get their money from the contracts people signed thinking they'd get the subsidy anyways. But you can only get the subsidy after registering the car, and seeing as it has been cancelled yesterday spontaneously, unless you're lucky and your municipality has already taken the step to offer the online form for it, you couldn't actually do that since all responsible municipal bureas for car registration are closed on weekends.
Which, again: lol, lmao
EDIT: Just as a side note as per the online form for car registration: you register it with a federal bureau. In the analogue world your documents however would get checked and the entry done by your municipality or county. The online form however is NOT provided by the federal bureau to it's citizens, but instead has to be provided by the responsible municipality or county, of which there are around 600. All this to send some data directly to a federal bureau. But since this country is living perpetual 1990 and computers aren't a thing, about 2/3rds of responsible municipalities and countys will have their access to the online form cut due in the next few days on account of not following and getting audited on the required IT-Security Guidelines.
Is this the German Efficiency I've been hearing so much about?
proxy war over your own people.Thank you for the explainer I follow green energy and Germany reluctantly
the german debt brake stuff is affecting all kinds of stuff, not just EV subsidies. I wouldn't look at this issue in the context of just cars, it's much bigger than that
Germany spontaneously axis
We need a :hitler-detector-over-9000: emoji