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[-] 520@kbin.social 143 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That is literally how 'sigma' males came to be.

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 114 points 10 months ago

My 27yo incel nephew during the holidays had a hissy fit and called me a beta and really put himself in the alpha seat.

Which was weird, because I picked him up from my sister's house, drove him here, and also had to drop him back off as a favor to my sister.

I dunno what internet or what he thinks alphas are but oooof.

[-] Skates@feddit.nl 92 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

So you chauffered him around for free, no strings attached, and are now wondering why he thinks he's royalty.

Next time you help him out, drop him off in the nearby woods with a camera, asking for a video on how alphas hunt.

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 77 points 10 months ago

No... there just isnt a next time.

"Hey can you..."

"Nah, Ive got too much Beta shit going on. Buying soy candles, yoga... tell him to find an Alpha way home. Tame a wild horse, Run with a wolf pack or some shit. NMFP."

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[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I am a beta to my sister because I love her and will fulfill favors for her unconditionally.

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[-] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

Apparently the concept of alpha male in wolves came from those observed in captivity.

Sure there's a link there

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[-] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

What was the drive back like? Lol

My 12 year old nephew is also into this stuff... I worry for him, but I was also an idiot at 12.

[-] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 83 points 10 months ago

No they literally did that already too, that’s why you hear other Greek letters like sigma males and all that bullshit.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago

Join us in the twin diesel turbo dude club.

[-] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

“We go full cock diesel in this club!”

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[-] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 81 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Alpha male is the most unstable and failure prone male.

Beta male is a little better, since the developers would have tested it more.

Release Candidate male is probably the safest bet if you want a fairly reliable male while still having early access to new features.

Stable Release male is the one most non male enthusiasts would use though.

If you're running males in a server or enterprise environment, you probably want Long Term Support male.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

Some people like to compile their own male from source.

[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago
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[-] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 13 points 10 months ago

I'm a "feature branch that's been abandoned for 4 years" male.

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[-] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 65 points 10 months ago

I'm a turbo dude. It's like an alpha male, but women like me.

[-] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

i respect women and they look at me in return

[-] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 15 points 10 months ago

My nephew who's like 12 insists this is "sigma male" but I just tell him that sounds more like ligma males.

[-] jdaxe@infosec.pub 12 points 10 months ago

Smegma male

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[-] FunkyMonk@kbin.social 60 points 10 months ago

Some fuckers never got past the infinity + 1 shit. Also Goku always wins, duh.

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

Except the like 27 times he got killed.

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[-] RandomVideos@programming.dev 54 points 10 months ago

Ah yes, a paper about wolves following a leader which was disproven by the same person that made it obviously applies to humans

The average pack size in North America is eight wolves and in Europe 5.5 wolves, with the biggest being 42

The largest human "pack" size is 37800000

i couldnt find the average size of a city, only the largest

42 is sightly smaller than 37800000 so studies on wolves about social structure might be wrong if you replaces wolves with humans

[-] danielbln@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

I hear you, but you counter is a little disingenuous. A city isn't your pack, your social circle is. And that's probably smaller than 42. Just because you're in a city of millions doesn't mean you directly interact with them in a social way, we are still animals of small social groups, even if we live in a global space of billions. The alpha male stuff is still bunk science trash of course.

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

Does the half wolf in Europe go to another pack, or is it eaten?

[-] SkyeHarith@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

It’s half a wolf in Europe and half a wolf in the Atlantic Ocean. Duh

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[-] clb92@feddit.dk 17 points 10 months ago

As a European, I gotta tell you, it's super creepy seeing those half wolves walk around with their packs... You guys are lucky your wolves decided to split up in 8-packs instead.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The largest human “pack” size is 37800000

Dunbar's number would suggest otherwise. Human "pack" size is closer to 150. Past that, you really don't recognize or interact with people to consider them peers.

But the rise of "Alpha Male" psychology seems to be paired with the gamification of dating, particularly via for-profit web apps. There's all this meta-psychology blossoming around a simple mathematical problem of too-many-dudes for too-few-women in a setting that rewards aggressiveness.

What we have is a totally artificial environment lauded by bunch of NEET libertarian techbros who are then forced to rationalize why they can't use it to get laid. In some sense, its like that scene from "A Beautiful Mind" except replace John Nash with Andrew Tate, and he's telling everyone at the table to fight to the death over the one blonde girl.

But the heart of the problem isn't simple that humans aren't wolves. It is that you have made of yourself a pack of caged animals and tried to explain the resulting social dysfunction by appealing to naturalism. Even if you were right and there was a chicken-like peaking order rather than a giant dog orgy instilled in the human psyche, you couldn't take advantage of it because you have become locked in a hen house overwhelmingly composed of roosters.

Incidentally, gay dating apps have an entirely different dynamic. There's no "gay alpha male" theory to contend with because they're all in the pile and having the time of their lives.

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[-] 22decembre@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago

Remember what an alpha is ? In video games, it's the first release, extra rough, not yet full clean of a game. It's the test version.

So I propose that we call "alpha males" ... "the test version".

[-] extraowl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 10 months ago

The reality is even better:

The wolves in the studies that produced an alpha were in captivity with foreign wolves. Meaning that their natural pack social hierarchies didn't exist. It's only when a bunch of random wolves are captured together that they act like this.

Which actually makes this a much better metaphor for people who identify themselves as "Alphas", feeling trapped, lashing out at your neighbours trying desperately to be the one who comes out on top.

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[-] gardylou@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago

In nature the 'alpha' wolves are actually just the parents.

The original study that this term came from was based on wolves in captivity and the original author has spent decades reputitating the common interpretation of wolves being hierarchical and following an alpha leader like the common interpretation imagines that term to mean.

[-] rekabis@lemmy.ca 35 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Those “alpha” wolves were just a bunch of strangers thrown together and operating off of fear. They were just trying to build a pecking order to have some interpersonal security.

So any “alpha male” is just a frightened, insecure stranger who is out of their depth in scary circumstances and operating in a reactionary manner.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 14 points 10 months ago

Except in their case this frightening situation exists purely on the inside of their skulls. Usually there isn't really anything happening.

Mostly it's just the existence of other people that worries them.

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[-] databender@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago

How could you write this and not go for "Turbro"?

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"...and then they start jumping up and down on the sofa yelling 'it's turbo time!' And then they start runnin' around the house? And when you try to join in they yell at you and say 'YOU’RE NOT PART OF THE TURBO TEAM! DON’T RUN! YOU DON’T RUN WITH US! WE’RE THE ONES THAT RUN! UNTIL YOU’RE PART OF THIS TURBO TEAM, WALK SLOWLY!' Has that ever happened to you?"

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago
[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Also known as the Sigma male. Probably my favorite meme to come out of all the alpha male toxic bs

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[-] Clbull@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago
[-] formergijoe@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

As a ligma male, I feel attacked.

[-] Poxlox@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago
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[-] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

The highest Flex is when your are just happy.

[-] Twelve20two@slrpnk.net 16 points 10 months ago

And then "sigmas" tried to set themselves apart by saying that they really, really, really don't care and they're just focusing on themselves*

*By putting themselves into their own strata with a label that they definitely, totally don't care about. And no, it's definitely, definitely not a grift that influencers can use

[-] jackhp95@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago
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