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[-] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 339 points 8 months ago

Why won't you let them protect your privacy???

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 79 points 8 months ago

To be fair, I can actually sort-of see a specific point here:

They are legally required to offer you that cookie choice. If you block that choice, are they in violation of the law even if they cannot apply cookies? Just because their site does implement tech for it (even though you're blocking it, but the law cannot know that) and they cannot show you the popup allowing you to reject the tech (since you're blocking it)?

Weird thing. Doubt there'd be a clear answer without someone dragging someone else in front of a court for it, plus that's of course not why CNN is blocking us here, but it's an interesting thought whether they are even allowed to let you on if they cannot present you with the GDPR choice.

[-] xantoxis@lemmy.world 79 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yeah. GDPR should have been implemented as a mandatory part of HTML or even HTTP that interacts with a builtin browser feature. Let the user make the choice once, in the browser, and let the browser tell the visited site what's allowed. Statutory compliance would mean something like

  • browser detects and warns about cookies which do not appear to be in compliance with user's preferences (optionally: browser can block cookies which do not appear to be in compliance)
  • browser detects sites which do not implement the spec at all, and warns the user about that
  • regulatory body checks for compliance on any site with over X number of users
  • regulatory body checks major browsers for compliance
  • any combination or all of the above
[-] habitualTartare@lemmy.world 46 points 8 months ago

Sounds like do not track +

[-] Mechanize@feddit.it 34 points 8 months ago

Yeah. GDPR should have been implemented as a mandatory part of HTML or even HTTP that interacts with a builtin browser feature.

Well, it kind of is. The Do Not Track header has recently seen a court win in Germany (source):

It turned out that the judge agreed with vzbv, ruling that the social media giant is no longer allowed to warn users it doesn't respect DNT signals. That's because, under GDPR, the right to opt out of web tracking and data collection can also be exercised using automated procedures.

And it is basically the same in California too Source

GPC is a valid do-not-sell-my-personal-information signal according to the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA), which stipulates that websites are legally required to respect a signal sent by users who want to opt-out of having their personal data sold.

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[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They should just treat it as declined every necessary cookie and move on

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[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 227 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

INVADING YOUR PRIVACY IS REQUIRED TO PROTECT YOUR PRIVACY

LET US IN!!!

[-] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 140 points 8 months ago

"We're tracking you for your privacy 🙄

[-] plz1@lemmy.world 96 points 8 months ago

“Protect your privacy” is literally why we use uBO…

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[-] solrize@lemmy.world 96 points 8 months ago

No one has mentioned the good version of that site, https://lite.cnn.com -- no ads, no bloat, works fine with UBO.

[-] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

TIL!

and it's mobile-friendly and distraction-free too

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[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 95 points 8 months ago

you blocked the stuff we need to protect your privacy

holy shit fuck you you lying fuck

[-] dan@upvote.au 47 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They could be telling the truth... It's possible that OP is in Europe and the ad blocker is blocking a GDPR cookie consent notice.

The message explicitly mentions EasyList Cookie, which is described like this on https://easylist.to/:

EasyList Cookie List blocks cookies banners, GDPR overlay windows and other privacy-related notices.

Edit: I'm not agreeing with what they're doing. I'm just saying that the message may be accurate. Having said that, maybe blocking a cookie banner should count as an opt-out, so they shouldn't show this notice and instead just automatically reject the cookies. I'm not sure if the law is clear around this, though.

If you want to opt-out of tracking cookies, consent-o-matic will likely work better. It automatically clicks the right buttons in the consent notice for you.

Edit 2: The law seems unclear about what to do if the consent notice is blocked by the viewer's browser (and thus they can neither accept nor reject cookies), so maybe blocking access to the site is likely the safest approach for them to take.

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[-] SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 92 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

CNN: We can’t ask if you want to allow cookies because you’re blocking everything

Me: Which means I don’t want you to……….?

CNN: No idea, we have to ask you.

Me: I’m so strict you can’t even ask meaning………?

CNN: You….

Me: Yes?

CNN: Uh……….. don’t want…..

Me: Yesssss………

CNN: To miss out on us asking you.

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[-] key@lemmy.keychat.org 68 points 8 months ago

I just opened CNN on firefox with unblock origin on both mobile and desktop without issue.

[-] bilb@lem.monster 35 points 8 months ago

I wonder if it has to do with the region you try to load it from. The message in the screenshot seems to indicate that it might.

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 14 points 8 months ago

could be that there's been an update to the filters to deal with this issue?

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 51 points 8 months ago

Honestly CNN isn't great and this screen is just a reminder to go somewhere else.

I just hope this isn't a trend.

[-] vermyndax@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

Sadly, it is a trend.

[-] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 39 points 8 months ago

They’re doing you a favor

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 8 months ago

if you're in the us, just donate to your local pbs or npr station and watch newshour/pbs world.

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[-] Bruncvik@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago

Funny... My company (over 100k employees worldwide) is blocking CNN as a security risk...

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[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 34 points 8 months ago

I block CNN by not visiting their website.

The only CNN worth anything is CNN International, and that still works fine with all ad blockers raised. But even CNN International started pulling the same stunt, it's not remotely good enough that I would miss it either.

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[-] uhrbaan@feddit.ch 33 points 8 months ago

Well, guess we won't visit CNN anymore 🤷

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[-] niktemadur@lemmy.world 31 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

required components that protect your privacy

Talk about doublespeak. Double-plus-good, eh?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago

I'm using Firefox with uBlock Origin and cnn.com loads for me without any issues.

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[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 8 months ago

Says you're using Brave...

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[-] squid_slime@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago

If someone's savy enough for unlock I'm sure they're savy enough to tell CNN to get fucked

[-] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

Post title says Firefox, but the screenshot is saying Brave. 🤔

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[-] Coreidan@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

If CNN wants me to use their website they need to sign a contract that says they need to eat my shit with a spoon. Legal repercussions if they violate.

[-] erranto@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

This is Beyond "Can I interest you in some Tracking cookies ?" , this is "You MF better put these cookies down your throat or I will shove them up your Ass".

[-] aniki@lemm.ee 22 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Good. Stop going there. But also, make sure your lists are up to date. The anti-annoying block list usually blocks these scripts from executing.

[-] dukatos@lemm.ee 22 points 8 months ago

They also blocks you with the same message if you want to read an article about Bibi from Austria. If you try with the VPN, they'll let you read it. The article: https://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/22/opinions/snyder-netanyahu-holocaust-remarks/index.html

[-] chocosoldier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 8 months ago

so? nothing worth reading there anyway.

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[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

Heh, we had this problem with a work product a month ago. it's the suppress cookie popups feature.

Legislation in some areas requires people to opt in to cookies, but add blockers block the banner pop, so from a legal compliance standard they're not in compliance even though it's something the users are doing.

[-] bitwolf@lemmy.one 19 points 8 months ago

The cookie blockers automatically decline cookie consent with the minimum possible cookies.

If your site is GDPR compliant it must respect the consent triggers by the extension as the consent is identical to if a human user correctly filled out the cookie form to acknowledge only the minimum required cookies.

CNN in the OP is just gaslighting the user here.

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[-] TheChargedCreeper864@lemmy.ml 13 points 8 months ago

How would blocking the pop-up be violating the law, though? If the pop-up doesn't show, you're not able to agree to cookies. You don't provide your explicit consent, therefore the website must assume you don't want to be tracked. The presence of the pop-up shouldn't be changing anything for people not willing to opt in, should it?

Or perhaps they're self-aware and have set it up to only opt you out by filling out the form, which you can't do if it isn't there. Or they just want you to agree to those "required" cookies? I don't know.

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[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 20 points 8 months ago

Ironically, that message can only be shown if they are invading your privacy.

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[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 20 points 8 months ago

Just switched back to FF for the first time in years. Have to say, it's helping me de-google quite quickly because they're such bastards about playing nice with other browsers.

[-] kylian0087@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Works fine for me with firefox and Ublock. What does give me this exact message though is a extention called IDontCareAboutCookies

[-] quams69@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

Who cares? What are you missing out on, more shit tier journalism?

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[-] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

With how MS Teams and now CNN have been reported here to be blocking Firefox, you know that Firefox is doing things right. If web giants are ganging up against it, it's all the more reason to switch to it to make a statement and prevent big tech from making privacy violation the norm.

[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 13 points 8 months ago

No issue here.

Firefox + Ublock Origin.

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[-] ratcliff@lemmy.wtf 12 points 8 months ago
[-] grue@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

CNN got bought out by a right-wing billionaire. It's not even "blue hat Fox News;" it's soon to be just the same thing as regular Fox News.

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