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[Zelensky] said he was contemplating the move to ensure the country remains led by individuals who are “convinced of victory” against Russia.

ukkkraine is so fucked

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[–] edge@hexbear.net 76 points 9 months ago (2 children)

to ensure the country remains led by individuals who are “convinced of victory” against Russia

Surrounding yourself with yes-men in the middle of a war you're losing is always a great idea.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 43 points 9 months ago

Worked for Ngô Đình Diệm

Until, you know, the thing

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[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 58 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So I suppose running the war like a start-up is going really great

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 36 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Hey now Walmart and Amazon ran st a loss 📉 for a long time and created some of the most wealthy bastards on earth. So a war run by the same Wall Street logic should yeild the same results smuglord just keep spending in deficit until your competition can't keep up and closes shop.

[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 57 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Zelensky being assassinated by his own army would be Double Christmas. Do the funniest thing possible and end the war tomorrow.

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 37 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He's the goofball half pint underling that does what he's told with a smile. Killing him would be about as meaningful as blowing up a big "Slava Ukraine" billboard.

[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 32 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It wouldn't do much domestically beyond give peacemakers a chance to assert their power, but internationally Zelensky is the only charismatic Ukrainian liberals have attached to and I don't think they can replace him with someone similar. Ukraine's next leader isn't going to have the same ability to convince foreign voters to keep giving them money. If it causes a spiral of instability, that also forces Ukraine to the negotiating table all the same. It's an inevitability that I don't think has drawbacks if the goal is to end the war.

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 29 points 9 months ago

internationally Zelensky is the only charismatic Ukrainian liberals have attached to

Because he's been the one getting all the attention and praise. Modi gets the same treatment in India. Macron gets the same treatment in France. Milei has been getting big glow-ups in Argentina since he began running for office. NPR/CNN/et-al are still trying to make Navalny a thing in Russia.

They could bring in new media darlings if they wanted to. It would just take a bunch of work, running this person through the media machine a few dozen times until Americans were comfortable with them again. But then... why? What's the point? When you already have Zelensky and he's already doing literally everything you ask of him, what else do you actually need?

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 22 points 9 months ago

Zaluzhny isn't a peace maker. He's very much aligned with the psychotic far right in ukraine. He doesn't want to make peace, he wants to stop hurling away people on political objectives that have no military value (bakhmut, idiotic counteroffensives, hold the line at all costs type thinking that dominates the zelensky gang)

[–] PosadistInevitablity@hexbear.net 36 points 9 months ago

It’d just be blamed on Russia. The West will never report on such an event.

[–] kot@hexbear.net 49 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Ukrainian president confirms he’s thinking about dismissing the country’s military chief

That doesn't sound like something one should just openly say if they don't want to get coup'd. Either just do it or shut up about it until you do.
"Hello, guy who's in control of my military? I might or might not dismiss you, idk tho"

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 50 points 9 months ago (3 children)

You're absolutely right. Just look at him:

If I casted a 2005 movie about a Ukrainian wartime coup I would be begging for Zelensky and this guy to play the two main roles

[–] ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml 43 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 42 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He has surpassed the thumb phenotype to become something greater

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 33 points 9 months ago

The Lengendary Soldier, Big Toe

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[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 23 points 9 months ago

I mean it would be very funny if Zaluzhny snapped Zelenskyyyyyy like a twig and fed him to vultures

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[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 47 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If Zaluzhny would just clap more and believe harder Ukraine could transcend material reality and tap into the Great Narrative to achieve victory

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 21 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Zelenskyy said “we have 30 million people in this country” when questioned about whether the army has sufficient manpower

Don’t worry the superior Ukrainian Will shall bolster the volk into an undefeatable army! The women, children, elderly, disabled and cowardly politicians remaining will win!

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[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 42 points 9 months ago (4 children)

If Zelensky had any brains at all he'd resign, grab a bag, and dip the fuck out

He's asking for a bullet now lmao

[–] Comp4@hexbear.net 35 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah he should have created an exile government in Mar-a-Lago a while ago. Just collect free cash while sipping mojitos.

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 28 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Leave all the hard stuff to the interim president guaido

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[–] footfaults@hexbear.net 40 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Zelensky’s desire to fire his commanding general is the result, some Americans believe, of his knowledge that Zaluzhny had continued to participate—whether directly or through aides is not known—in secret talks since last fall with American and other Western officials on how best to achieve a ceasefire and negotiate an end to the war with Russia. It was those talks that led Zaluzhny to declare to the Economist that the war was stalemated. Zelensky has talked of mobilizing 500,000 more soldiers, via another draft, and to try again this spring to launch another counteroffensive against the Russians. Ukraine, of course, would need renewed funding from the Biden administration to do so. It is not clear that Republicans in Congress are prepared to finance another counteroffensive, but there is little doubt that the Biden administration would lobby hard for the funds. (On Thursday, the EU approved funding for Ukraine in excess of 50 billion euros.)

https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/the-president-vs-the-general

Zelensky has talked of mobilizing 500,000 more soldiers, via another draft, and to try again this spring to launch another counteroffensive against the Russians.

horrifying. under the circumstances, how could you think of doing this to your long suffering people.

and yet, the unnecessary deaths this brings about will be added to the list of communist deaths within a decade

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Zelensky has talked of mobilizing 500,000 more soldiers, via another draft, and to try again this spring to launch another counteroffensive against the Russians.

Killing another generation off? They're going to run out sooner or later.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They already are. They are having a lot of problems mobilizing this batch and can’t find enough people

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 22 points 9 months ago

Dear god, he wants to stop the killing! Fire that man immediately, the blood must flow!

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[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 40 points 9 months ago

Zelensky tries 2 years too late to prevent the inevitable azovite stab in the back myth

[–] Des@hexbear.net 39 points 9 months ago (1 children)

too much coke, dude. your brain can only handle the flood of dopamine so long before you start really believing your own hype.

a soft coup would just be locking zelensky in a room and cut him off for like 3 days

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 19 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I get the appeal, the only time I was into map games was when I was doing a lot of blow.

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[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 36 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 37 points 9 months ago (1 children)

First as farce then as a yet unknown (yet likely highly comedic) coup-borne phenomenon in cyclical history prigo-pog

[–] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 29 points 9 months ago

Except if Luzhie wins, then it just wraps around to tragedy. Whatever happens will at least settle the long running “loop vs. spiral” debate in marxohegelian historical analysis very-smart

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 33 points 9 months ago

Radio WarNerd has several episodes on the conflict between Zelensky and Zaluzhny. The TLDR is basically a struggle between the civilian institution and the military one. As the war progresses and society gets militarized, the former institution is being questioned.

[–] PosadistInevitablity@hexbear.net 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is PUTIN-ganda. Why must you spread these lies hexbear?

Ukraine is a DEMOCRACY and has no power struggles

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[–] Sephitard9001@hexbear.net 29 points 9 months ago

Isn't this what we are told Putin did. Replaced all his top guys with yes men?

[–] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 9 months ago

Just warming up the public for it now at this point. Zaluzhnyi is very popular, more so than Zelensky.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 28 points 9 months ago

blinken "To the last Ukranian!"

[–] Melina@hexbear.net 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Aren’t there like 300k dead Ukrainians

[–] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It’s closing in on 500,000. It’s a little higher than 450,000-460,000.

[–] Melina@hexbear.net 24 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah modern warfare is very deadly. Ukraine is the very definition of a transitional moment where old ways of thinking are smashed against new realities.

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[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

lmao firing everyone who sees reality. This is going to end well

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[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 23 points 9 months ago

You know that famous saying "changing horse mid stream is always a good idea"

[–] GoroAkechi@hexbear.net 20 points 9 months ago

Wait I thought it happened days ago

[–] ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 9 months ago

I'm here to confirm that I'm thinking of confirming that I'm thinking of being gay and doing crime.

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