If you want to know why Americans are bummed out about their purchasing power, just look at this chart about how wages abruptly stopped increasing with productivity 45 years ago. People are accomplishing more than ever before in history and being left with less buying power. In many cases wages don't even keep pace with inflation because companies pay based on what they can get away with, not what the work is worth.
I could work two hours a day and still get all my tasks done. I could do that, go to my next job, and do another two hours of work and double my income. But because I have to have my butt in a chair in an office eight hours a day on the off chance my boss thinks of something additional for me to do, I'm stuck being four times more inefficient than I need to be.
This is the answer. For 50 years now wages have remained stagnant while productivity has gone up through the roof. We are being robbed decade after decade, and by now claims of “strongest economy” feel like slaps in the face. Many of us are earning more than ever before, yes, but also have less purchasing power than ever before.
Remember that in the 1950s a high school grad could support a family of 4 with a house and car on a single income. That’s how much has been taken from us by the rich and corporations.
Corporate price gouging
Ding ding ding. I have no idea where they're pulling these numbers from when my grocery bill has doubled since the pandemic. I wish it was only 26% higher.
Yeah I agree, anecdotally my wife and I spend roughly $200 a trip when we used to spend about $100. It may not be exactly double but it's very close.
Middle class is the new poor. Shit broke in the 70s and it ain’t likely to get fixed. Get used to it.
I'm not a R but the Democrats seriously need to stop pushing this shitty "economy is awesome" narrative. Because everytime someone hears it who isn't feeling the economy, it makes them hate the Democrats a little more. Staying home and not voting because your candidate has pissed you off, is just as bad.
For anyone who hasn't recieved a 20% pay increase, the economy is not good. In fact you'd need about a 35% to 50% pay increase to be feeling the same as you did pre pandemic. If you job hopped during the super awesome fun times of Covid hiring and got a boost in salary, then yeah you're new salary offset by new higher prices makes the economy feel better than it was.
But if you're the majority of people who did not get 50% adjustments, you are having a bad time. You are factually worse off financially than you were.
The idea of blaming who or what made the bad economy is a lost game. Bush tanked the economy, Obama got the blame. Trump tanked the economy, Biden got the blame. But just because Biden didn't tank it, doesn't mean it isn't tanked.
There is nobody, not a single person, I know of that is doing better today than 2020.
It's the gaslighting that's pissing people off. "The economy is great!" ... "For who?!"
In fact you'd need about a 35% to 50% pay increase to be feeling the same as you did pre pandemic.
https://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?cost1=100&year1=202001&year2=202402
That's high -- CPI is up 20.29% from January 2020 to February 2024.
Yes but the data is skewed. The 20.6% is true. But if you don't buy those items that's not the amount. Many items are double what they were. Lots over 50% increase.
Vehicles, insurance rates, computer components, huge increases. Eggs, milk, and bread 20%. Not everyone is buying only staples.
Yeah, y'know, just kinda bummed out.
Bit mitted about it.
Because capitalism inherently brings corruption, and when a bubble bursts the fever goes down and we think things are OK... until the next bubble
The bubble will burst eventually, it's just a matter of when. Unfortunately it's not next week.
My rent is 93% higher than it was in 2019
80% higher for me. It went up 29% from November alone
They really be cherry picking the numbers to tell us everything is fine and we're the ones who are wrong.
Yea, most of these estimates I've seen are wildly understanding the increased costs of everything.
bummed out just seems like a wildly inappropriate phrase for this topic
the average basket of goods and services that most Americans buy in any given month is 17% more expensive than four years ago.
That’s 4% per year
And now much has pay gone up?
They claim it's gone up more than that, but I'm very curious where they're getting these numbers.
Here's US bureau of labor statistics:
Pay went up faster than inflation compared to before the pandemic
That graph shows real wages as being flat for the last 24 years, and even the bump you mentioned was barely noticable and fell back to baseline in like a year.
What would the chart look like when we exclude billionaires, C-suite executives, and everyone else who gets paid to own stuff instead of working for a living?
This was at my grocery store the other day in the LA area.
It's literally just wheat meal with honey, it costs literally 12 cents a box to make.
The packaging is more expensive.
But capitalism says 'lol it's ok to charge whatever!'.
And 1/3 of the internet will defend them for 'reasons'.
Where did you get "it costs literally 12 cents a box"? Is that a random number for effect or do you have some insider knowledge and know that for sure?
Either way is fine with me, just curious because it seems like a very small amount after paying for the raw materials, the workers wages, the shipping costs, and the grocery store overhead, etc.
Well that 1% guy wasn't joking when he said "You will own nothing and be happy." Except for the "you will be happy" part. They're doing this to us on purpose and they have their reasons.
Used car prices are 34% higher
My understanding is that that is specifically due to chip shortages in the auto industry during COVID-19. New car production fell off, so used cars acted as a partial substitute, which drove up used car prices.
There’s also the disconnect of what is being made by manufacturers versus what many people want. An overpriced and massive luxury SUV has never appealed to me, yet that is basically the primary vehicle being made. I could buy a new car if I wanted to, all 3 of mine are paid off but there isn’t a single new car being made that I want to drive more than my 2017 Ford Focus. If it was totaled tomorrow I would absolutely pay a premium to get it replaced rather than buy something new. When supply is low prices come up and used cars are a commodity that is desirable to many and not available from current manufacturers. 5000 lb EVs just do not appeal to me in any way.
Car companies have done the math, and the higher profit margins are worth the reduced sales. They're going for the rich market.
And dealers have done the same math. Inventory is based on the highest spec they think they can force onto someone coming in for a mid tier vehicle. You want an F-150 with a regular or super cab? Too bad, that $40k truck simply doesn’t exist. Your options are a $65k SuperCrew(R) on the PLATINUM, which is marked up another $15k because there’s only one and 4 other people want it more than the $83k Limited, (also with a SUPERCREW cab). Meanwhile 2004 Rangers with 200k miles are solid gold on marketplace because you literally can’t buy them anymore.
Everyone will say “they make what sells” but that’s bullshit. They spend millions to market and convince people they need the largest vehicle they can get away with producing. “Oh, you’re having your first kid? If you don’t have 14” of ground clearance and a 3rd row you won’t be able to survive.” A 2009 Jetta is just fine for a small family. If you need cargo space, they make a wagon. Just make fucking cars again.
The chip shortage is the auto industry own fault. Historically auto manufactures used older prosses nodes (40nm) as it was cheap and widely available however that node they are on is now outdated to the point where there's not that many fabs manufacturing that size of chips anymore.
To make things worse the silicon industry moved to a larger wafer design which would require the auto industry to invest in new hardware to support the larger wafer and redesign/validate the ICs for the smaller node all of which requires spending money they won't see a return in for a significant amount of time.
Manufacturers also cut production in march of 2020, stating that it was for worker safety. However, I believe it was because they figured sales would plummet if the pandemic was very bad. I assume their projections for death were much higher than in actuality. With COVID mainly affecting older people they did lose a large amount of new vehicle buyers as older people are much more likely to buy a new vehicle. When they shut down production, it had hysteretic effects down the supply chain due to jit (just in time) manufacturing. Without orders, may suppliers also had to cut production of vehicle parts, especially chip manufacturers, which are mainly in China. When vehicle production started back up, suppliers had to also catch up with demand.
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