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[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 69 points 7 months ago (5 children)

totally agree that the logical future is a single powerful system for the house with thin clients and little baby machines for surf/browse/email/stream. most of what anyone is doing could work great on a $20 raspberry pi, but manufacturers have convinced everyone that every house needs like 3+ systems that can all do climate modeling or geospatial analysis.

if like 90% of the heavy traffic internet wasn't riddled with the latest UX complicating popups and malformed ad technology, most of the complaints of "my computer is slow" would probably vanish overnight.

[–] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 41 points 7 months ago

It's so funny that nearly all processing headroom improvements since like the first Core 2 Duo have been eaten up by ads and shitty code from exploited programmers

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

tell me about it. get linux and a good adblocker and you probably could still use a core 2 duo system for most peoples everyday tasks.

[–] ComradeEd@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I will tell you about it.

I booted up a T60. That's right, from 2006, back when Lenovo had just bought ThinkPad from IBM, so it still has the IBM ThinkPad logo, anyways. It has a Core Duo, no no, not a Core 2 Duo, Core Duo the 32bit one. Put an SSD in it, put Debian with XFCE on it, and it runs very well. Emails, LibreOffice, Music, no problem. Besides both batteries being dead, it's good for a few more years.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago

really shows us how they could make longer lasting electronics if they wanted.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

yeah, but opening up one of the modern shitwebsites in firefox or chrome will absoultely choke that machine to death.

web bloat is the only reason i upgrade hw

[–] ComradeEd@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 7 months ago

So far as I remember (it's been some time since I used it) it worked well enough with the websites I did visit (besides watching youtube—through invidous—, for obvious reasons).

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

to be fair most of it comes from advertising and tracking, a good adblocker helps quite a lot.

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Software bloat is real.

A modern web page (with no hi-res images) can take >1GB RAM, when '90s web browsers typically took <1MB. Modern Adobe PDF reader takes >200MB, when some of the longest video games I've loved are <=10MB. Heck even a modern indie-made game with tons of gameplay is still sometimes <200MB.

The cause really is just shitty code and corner-cutting. Optimizing anything is rarely regarded as worth it nowadays, even if a small amount of work leads to 10x performance gains.

[–] neo@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately even the default Lemmy UI is pretty heavy. A clean load of this page and the comments transferred 1.92MB on the wire (6.61 decompressed). I blame Inferno. Not because Inferno is specifically bad, but because I have been convinced that anything that is React or React-like is bad.

On Diethex it's 204kB and 217kB respectively, and that's because the OP's image is 108kB.

A comparable Reddit page https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1bja5qu/robert_de_niro_80_and_his_10months_old_daughter/ initially loads about as much as Hexbear, even including all the ad scripts, but transfers megabytes more as you load and scroll comments.

Where they super begin to differ is that one Reddit tab is currently sitting at 400MB+ RAM usage, compared to Hexbear's 140, compared to Diethex's 20**.

** I think one thing that is hard to track about page memory usage is the web browser will over-allocate to speed up page navigation and then eventually reclaim when you have mostly settled where you are. So after a few minutes it's now:
DietHex: 20MB
Hexbear: 60MB
Reddit: 160-260MB

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago

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[–] Parzivus@hexbear.net 68 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I like how Firefox prevails in every timeline

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 34 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There are only two constants in every instance of the multiverse: Firefox, and pig poop balls

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

I would like to imagine there's a version of Loss in the alt timeline. Exact same art style and tone, dunked on equally as much to the point of immortal meme

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 51 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I want a living room sized computer in my house just to be able to log onto the hexbear bbs and post

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 43 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ideally if I could turn it on by pulling a 3 foot lever and spinning a brass wheel

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 7 months ago

Sounds like my current modded Minecraft Survival world

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Can I also play UNO?

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

it comes installed on all room-sized computers

[–] jack@hexbear.net 48 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

this is next year if we vote PSL

[–] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 35 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

hehe

I named the imaginary computer after the Electronika 60, which is the original computer Tetris was programmed for and was rack mounted.

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 17 points 7 months ago (3 children)

My garage gets to like -10 degrees in the winter. Is the politburo going to defrost my pc you fucking revisionist?

PIGPOOPBALLS

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Run it harder.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago

The colder it gets the more flops you can flip.

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm already as hard as I can be!

[–] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 11 points 7 months ago

You can put the rack wherever you want, the only thing that you can't do is move the components into a different style of case.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

your capitalist garage.

your communist garage would be well insulated.

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago

In communist america, whole neighborhood shares 1 garage, and every day, line forms at checkpoint

[–] Shinji_Ikari@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago

Man I'd love if I could have a rack mounted computer that didn't have hurricane simulators as cooling fans.

[–] SeizeToothbrush@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

United Soviet States of America

Computing Centre

disgost ukkk

[–] HamManBad@hexbear.net 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It comes with accepting the metric system

[–] ComradePupIvy@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago

wait America adopted the metric system, this is the most unrealistic part of the whole senario

[–] absolutefuckinidiot@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 7 months ago

Sounds like paradise to me

[–] PaX@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This is literally my dream, except it would be Plan 9 instead of Linux also there would be no web browsers and no BBcode forums it would be something else running over 9P on the collective grid