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[-] Gorb@hexbear.net 43 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The last section is kinda how cloud saves are supposed to work. If you could delete your local save and it synced then whaf would be the point. Overwritting a cloud save means you need to launch the game via steam offline mode then when back online you can select to upload the local save file. Although yes its stupid there's no new game option in the actual game.

The rest is aggregious tho. There was a time when you didn't have to pay for cheats in a game you just had them. I wonder if this is why capcom went big on anti modding recently cos they wanna charge for mods basically.

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 42 points 7 months ago

I wonder if this is why capcom went big on anti modding recently cos they wanna charge for mods basically.

todd walked so Capcom could run

[-] D61@hexbear.net 26 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Nothing like a corrupted cloud save bricking a video game because you are not allowed to see your cloud saves and delete them when there's a problem... or when you just want to start a fresh play through.

[-] Gorb@hexbear.net 21 points 7 months ago

Steams cloud save system is probably the worst one out there I dnow why it's so half assed. All the console platforms let me manage online backups so why doesn't steam?

[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago

Epic Games cloud saves have gotten messed up on me multiple times. It basically reset the game by not recognizing the cloud salves, had to rename a folder in the save dir.

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[-] marx_mentat@hexbear.net 13 points 7 months ago

Most games let you delete cloud saves. When I delete a local save file in most games, it will sync and remove that game file. This game was not designed for multiple game files so there's no way to tell it to delete the file because the space that the saves are stored is immutable.

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[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 40 points 7 months ago

I was looking forward to this doomer on the upside I can't afford it right now so hopefully our piracy comrades will pull through

[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 34 points 7 months ago

It has denuvo so it might take a few weeks or a few days

[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 7 months ago

If it has denuvo then most likely it will be available to pirate six months from now. Capcom usually removes denuvo after six months.

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 15 points 7 months ago

*(stops paying denuvo protection money after six months)

[-] mamotromico@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago

The ones that stayed the longest recently I think were there for a year.

[-] Aryuproudomenowdaddy@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago

Is there even anyone cracking Denuvo at this point?

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago

Empress was the last one but I have no idea where she ran off to. She was on Telegram after Lemmy banned her immediately (good call tbh) but abruptly stopped posting in September. She was going to "dedicate herself" to modding Starfield but I think she hit the wall like other modders that were pre-emptively excited when everyone realised that game was dogshit lmao.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 35 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Alright I'll die on this hill.

Absolutely nothing being sold can't be acquired in game for a pittance.

The character edit costs 20k gold. I earned this before I even reached the capital city. For reference on how much that costs a night in the inn costs 2k gold and you're essentially forced to do that every single day.

You earn this so damn easily.

Equipment is all stuff you can easily acquire too.

Nothing feels like it has affected gameplay. None of these prices feel like they increased the in-game cost in order to force you to pay money. They feel like they're just there for the sake of the chance some shmucks might buy them for no reason. I genuinely don't know why "pay to win" is even being mentioned, it's a singleplayer game who gives a fuck? It's not multiplayer, it's not an mmo, it's not pvp, it's not multiplayer pve, it's a singleplayer game. "P2W" is literally irrelevant. Rift Crystals are currency for purchasing pawns (companions) and only applies to ones that are 5+ levels above your character, it's a limitation to prevent people ruining the game for themselves by getting overlevelled companions that trivialise the content. If people pay money for the Rift Crystals they're literally ruining the game for themselves. The last part about not being able to delete cloud saves to make a new character just seems like a lie.

The review bombing over this is unwarranted.

The game is good. The optimisation is bad, that criticism is warranted, it's a cpu issue related to physics people think, graphics settings do nothing to change it, Denuvo is probably making it much worse.

I recommend the game if you want real time combat that makes you feel like a DnD party. The game is somewhere in between Fable's goofyness and DnD with a hint of influence from the Lord of the Rings battle in the Moria mines vs the goblin and cave troll.

[-] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 44 points 7 months ago

I'll die charging the hill.

So you can "earn" the stuff in-game: so what? That doesn't excuse it at all and I don't know why people repeat this. They aren't mad the item can be earned, they are mad it is sold. These seem like the same issue but they are not. Conflating them as the same issue is a poor attempt to deflect the justified frustration of the people who paid for this game. Their frustration is a basic part of human psychology. It is why we do not allow steroids in sports. It is why we separate boxing matches by weight. There is a fundamental understanding of "fairness" that every leftist should understand and this encroaches on that understanding. As a leftist you should understand how this is indicative of a greater inequity between what is accessible to those with wealth and those without in our society and you should be upset that it has not only consumed our working lives but now consumes our leisure as well.

In so far as your comments on the Rift companions being gated; I'm afraid you've put the cart before the horse. They are selling the solution to a problem they designed. This is the exact kind of toxic gameplay elements that people criticize the very existence of cash shops for. We aren't talking about some cosmetics here. The fact that you are trying to pass that off as a good thing shows just how lost in the sauce you are.

All these systems that must be interacted with in this way are things that must be programmed and tested. It hurts to see a game get blasted for performance issues when those same programmers may have been working on this garbage instead. Would their time have been better spent making sure the game ran nicely? Absolutely. But hey, at least they got the rift crystals and character editor token working right in the cash shop and isn't that what really matters?

You mentioned that it's not a big deal to have pay-2-win in a single player game. "Who cares," you say? Well, uh, a load of people. Why attempt to invalidate their concerns? Very toxic behavior in service to the greedy corporation, comrade. Do better.

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 21 points 7 months ago

'll die charging the hill.

lmao this is funny imagery for a argument. i wonder what rhetorical stakes are? cannons? does your argument give you a horse?

[-] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 13 points 7 months ago

my arguments have a saber. all the coolest charges in war involved sabers

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 14 points 7 months ago

Sports are irrelevant here. It is a singleplayer game. Enjoy it how you like.

All this amounts to is putting cheatcodes behind a paywall. And cheatcodes have been gone for decades. If we're really going to split hairs about this nobody ever complained about the Nintendo Hotline or the various other premium-cost official cheat hotlines in the back of the manuals back in the glory-days people imagine.

[-] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 17 points 7 months ago

Sports are just games. Either way, it's an analogy about the psychology of fairness and equity so I feel it is relevant in that way. Perhaps that didn't occur to you in which case I apologize for not being clear enough. It being a singleplayer game is not relevant to this psychology as I explained. If your enjoyment of the game comes from the accomplishments in the game then those accomplishments being trivialized by a cash shop will diminish your enjoyment of the game. This, again, is part of this fundamental element of human psychology I was talking about which is why I mentioned it.

In regards to the Nintendo hotline and such, yeah, we did complain about it. I know, because I was a child during that era (I am old) and I was complaining about it along with my friends. We just didn't have the internet at the time to have a nice record of it. We did it the old fashioned way; face to face while trading pornographic magazines we stole from our fathers.

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[-] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You mentioned that it's not a big deal to have pay-2-win in a single player game.

You misunderstand.

This isn't your average pay2win situation where you can ~totally~ earn your way to the important stuff. This is as if the Publisher told the Development team to put the cheapest healing potions from the first shop in the village ALSO for sale on the RMT shop. It's in bad taste, it's exploitative, but it's also hilariously irrational all things considered.

The reason why this became a PR loss is because they also removed the Start New Game button after your begin the game. So that lead to a belief that you gotta buy Art of Metamorphosis for 1,99. All in all it leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouths in the pettiest, least lucrative way possible.

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[-] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 26 points 7 months ago

I do maintain that they refrained from placing a New Game button there for a reason and that that reason is very stupid, likely predatory.

That said, a lot of people are straight up lying about art of metamorphosis yes.

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You know some fuckery is happening when developers strip you of basic functionality (like, literally, creating another character??) and then give you an option to restore that functionality for real money, irrespective of whether this can be achieved in game.

This makes it more acceptable to implement such practices in the future, and to either make it microtransaction-only or to enable insane levels of grind going forward to stimulate players to take an easy route...with cash.

That's not to mention that singleplayer/co-op games should never have microtransactions in the first place. You bought it, you are free to enjoy it whichever way you like. Yes, even "ruining your game with OP stuff" and cheating. Whatever strikes your fancy.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

As far as i can tell it's not real money. You do it with an in-game item that you use in-game money to buy.

Yeah, Devil May Cry 5 (same devs) had the exact same thing. The mtx items could all be very easily earned just by playing the game normally, and nothing was locked behind real money. Capcom just loves the bad publicity for whatever reason

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[-] sisatici@hexbear.net 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

"Absolutely nothing being sold can't be acquired in game for a pittance." so was the case in battlefront. no p2w shit should be allowed

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago

I see it as a different scenario when that translates to competitive advantage though. I couldn't care less about this existing here, it does not affect me.

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[-] SoloboiNanook@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago

Who cares though? Who you winning against? Yourself?

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 18 points 7 months ago

Creating an unfavorable situation and then charging money for it isn't great, and warrants negative reviews.

Taking advantage of "schmucks" also isn't great.

They could've made different choices. They are being reviewed based on the choices they made.

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[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 7 months ago

I won't buy a denuvo game or a game that forces online to play.

I was about to re-buy (since I still have my ps1 discs) the original ff7. Like a 25 year old game, but they require you to be online to start playing. Fuck that. No damned reason for it. I was going to buy it for my steam deck. Now I'm just going to pirate it instead. I hear it runs better emulated than the PC port runs without modding it.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Pirate then when available stalin-approval

I'm not trying to convince people to pay, just that the review bombing over this bullshit is misrepresenting a game that I think is actually pretty good. Genuinely do not care if people pay for it or not, capcom aren't poor lmao. Shame it won't be cracked though with denuvo, i'm pretty sure no denuvo crackers are left.

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[-] Melonius@hexbear.net 26 points 7 months ago

I turned off steam cloud and deleted my local saves, restarted game and made character, then reenabled cloud and told it to use my local when booting

[-] Stoatmilk@hexbear.net 26 points 7 months ago

I wouldn't trust this person, the review embargo was like one and a half days before release, and the character editor for example is pretty trivial to get in-game

[-] Mog_Pharou@hexbear.net 22 points 7 months ago

It's purchasable in-game for chump change ya dinguses.

[-] Ericthescruffy@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago

Like, you mean with the in game currency you can farm from killing mobs?

[-] Mog_Pharou@hexbear.net 17 points 7 months ago

Correct. It is weird and lame that they add all this shit to micro shop, but it's all available in game for cheap. It would be like selling Skyrim gold. I don't know what fool would buy it.

[-] D61@hexbear.net 24 points 7 months ago

....eehhh... folks with executive function issues or impulse control issues... these things are not designed to target fools.

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[-] NoYouLogOff@hexbear.net 13 points 7 months ago

Oh good*, that's how it was in the first game. I was worried because they did do paid vouchers with no ways to gain them in Monster Hunter Rise.

*Not exactly good as it feels like someone somewhere is getting exploited still but there is relief

[-] Mog_Pharou@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah it's weird. It seems like they are targeting fools cause I don't know who would spend real money on in-game cheap af consumables. Still rather they wouldn't, but whatever.

[-] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago

Feels like execs wanted microtransactions and the devs threw this around to satisfy them.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago

There are some demographics - people with adhd, some autistic people, some people with compulsion issues, who are very vulnerable to this bullshit. Ask me how I know (adhd, bipolar depression) but don't ask me for an itemized list of my year to date spending on mtx.

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[-] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

RuneScape has a makeover mage for 2k gold (you get 10k for learning about account safety right after the tutorial). Not to be confused with the barber and clothier who also exist and function similarly.

I don't think being unable to delete characters or start new games is permissable though. I only have this post for context though

[-] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 7 months ago

Don't worry they'll "fix" this in 6 months and be praised by gamers for the rest of time.

[-] D61@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago

59 people found this review funny.

Its well over 60 people now.

[-] Grandpa_garbagio@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This is every single Capcom release since before and including the first dragons dogma.

I have no idea why this is the time people are noticing lmao. Also all of it is really easy to get in game, it doesn't matter at all.

They've been doing this for years

[-] solitaire@infosec.pub 18 points 7 months ago

damn another dogshit capcom game? im shocked

[-] buh@hexbear.net 18 points 7 months ago

dragon's dogshit kelly

[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 14 points 7 months ago

I wasn't looking forward to this at all because I never played the originals and after BG3 I felt like any other similar games would be a step back and I don't want to waste my time, but this shit is not okay.

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[-] SnowySkyes@hexbear.net 11 points 7 months ago

You should be able to delete what data is in your cloud on Steam. I’m fairly certain you can. However, it is rather ridiculous that there’s no way to just delete the save in game. That’s gotta be getting overlooked by this person, right? Or does it seriously not have a save deletion button?

[-] Raphael@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

If this person spent $70 on a game without a free trial then he is a cuck and he will suffer the consequences.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

Sitting in the corner weeping as my wife plays video games right in front of me

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